[sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog


#21

I will take care that both Help menus become supported containers for gui
plugins.

I already (locally) changed that for the main window. I can do so for the
chat-help-menu as well [I did not recognize, that it works the same way].

Cheers,
thomas

···

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 17:13
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

normally if we use the gui plugin mechanism we could add the
AboutWindow
as a plugin in both the Main window menu and the Chat window menu. I
will take care that both Help menus become supported containers for gui
plugins. Then in this new bundle we need just to ask
uiService.addComponent().

Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:
> Seems that the about dialog is tighter integrated in the gui bundle
as I
> thought.
>
> As there is no possibility to register an exported window in the
UIService
> (there is no interface for that), the about-window cannot be accessed
from
> the chat-window any more.
> But I think, this is not important and we can live with that.
>
> What do you think?
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@sip-communicator.org]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 12:59
>> An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog
>>
>> Hey Yana, Thomas,
>>
>> Yes that's what I meant, Yana, thanks for answering, and thank you,
>> Thomas, for accepting to take care of it.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Emil
>>
>> Thomas Hofer wrote:
>>> OK! I'll put it on my task list for next week. Cheers, thomas
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 12:49
>>>> An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> I think that what Emil meant is that in the future we could think
of
>>>> displaying the splash screen from the launcher. For now I think we
>>>> could
>>>> start with merging the splashscreen and the about dialog, as you
>>>> proposed in one separate bundle. You could move the about dialog
in
>> the
>>>> splash screen bundle and just give this bundle a more appropriate
>> name.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Yana
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Hofer wrote:
>>>>> So what do we do now? Make one bundle for splashscreen and
>>>> aboutdialog? Or
>>>>> somehow move the splashcreen into the launcher?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@sip-communicator.org]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 10:14
>>>>>> An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard S. Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> I might add that it could be worthwhile to put all of this
>>>> "branding"
>>>>>>> stuff into a single bundle, rather than having them in separate
>>>>>> bundles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I completely agree. Right now we have two places where one has
to
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> content for branding. One is the about dialog and the other is
the
>>>>>> splash screen. It would be a good thing to have them merged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were also thinking with Yana that since the splash screen is
>> now
>>>> a
>>>>>> bundle it takes a while for it to show so in the future it would
>>>>>> probably be a good idea to display it from the SIP Communicator
>>>>>> launcher
>>>>>> that we talked about previously. At that point it may also make
>>>> sense
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> also try and merge the launcher with the new branding bundle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes it easier to know what to replace, but also proliferating
>>>> lots
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> little bundles will slow down system start up eventually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -> richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Emil Ivov wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also think it's a good idea, especially if you have already
>>>> worked
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> something in that direction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Emil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hofer Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi developers and others!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’d like to start a discussion about the „about-dialog“.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my opinion the about-dialog should be – like the splash
>> screen
>>>> –
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> bundle, which can be exchanged. This would make it possible
to
>>>>>> “brand”
>>>>>>>>> the sip-communicator even better than it is possible now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think about?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [ ] Good idea
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [ ] No, the about dialog must not be exchanged and therefore
>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> part of the main plugin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [ ] Does not matter me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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#22

Good catch!

Thomas Hofer wrote:

···

Hi!
Another issue I now discovered with the splash screen: it is closed too
fast, in fact, when the UIService bundle is resolved. But the UI is only
visible, when the bundle is started (active). I changed this issue, so that
the splash screen now hides, when the mainwindow is visible, and not before.

I'll commit this change, when the merging with the about dialog is complete.

Cheers
Thomas

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#23

I already (locally) changed that for the main window. I can do so for the

> chat-help-menu as well [I did not recognize, that it works the same way].

Ah, ok. That will be nice :slight_smile:

Thomas Hofer wrote:

···

I will take care that both Help menus become supported containers for gui
plugins.

I already (locally) changed that for the main window. I can do so for the
chat-help-menu as well [I did not recognize, that it works the same way].

Cheers,
thomas

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 17:13
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

normally if we use the gui plugin mechanism we could add the
AboutWindow
as a plugin in both the Main window menu and the Chat window menu. I
will take care that both Help menus become supported containers for gui
plugins. Then in this new bundle we need just to ask
uiService.addComponent().

Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:

Seems that the about dialog is tighter integrated in the gui bundle

as I

thought.

As there is no possibility to register an exported window in the

UIService

(there is no interface for that), the about-window cannot be accessed

from

the chat-window any more.
But I think, this is not important and we can live with that.

What do you think?

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 12:59
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hey Yana, Thomas,

Yes that's what I meant, Yana, thanks for answering, and thank you,
Thomas, for accepting to take care of it.

Cheers
Emil

Thomas Hofer wrote:

OK! I'll put it on my task list for next week. Cheers, thomas

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 12:49
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: AW: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

I think that what Emil meant is that in the future we could think

of

displaying the splash screen from the launcher. For now I think we
could
start with merging the splashscreen and the about dialog, as you
proposed in one separate bundle. You could move the about dialog

in

the

splash screen bundle and just give this bundle a more appropriate

name.

Cheers,
Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:

So what do we do now? Make one bundle for splashscreen and

aboutdialog? Or

somehow move the splashcreen into the launcher?

Cheers, thomas

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 10:14
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Richard,

Richard S. Hall wrote:

I might add that it could be worthwhile to put all of this

"branding"

stuff into a single bundle, rather than having them in separate

bundles.

I completely agree. Right now we have two places where one has

to

change
content for branding. One is the about dialog and the other is

the

splash screen. It would be a good thing to have them merged.

We were also thinking with Yana that since the splash screen is

now

a

bundle it takes a while for it to show so in the future it would
probably be a good idea to display it from the SIP Communicator
launcher
that we talked about previously. At that point it may also make

sense

to
also try and merge the launcher with the new branding bundle.

Emil

Makes it easier to know what to replace, but also proliferating

lots

of

little bundles will slow down system start up eventually.

-> richard

Emil Ivov wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I also think it's a good idea, especially if you have already

worked

on

something in that direction.

Emil

Hofer Thomas wrote:

Hi developers and others!

I�d like to start a discussion about the �about-dialog�.

In my opinion the about-dialog should be � like the splash

screen

a

bundle, which can be exchanged. This would make it possible

to

�brand�

the sip-communicator even better than it is possible now.

What do you think about?

[ ] Good idea

[ ] No, the about dialog must not be exchanged and therefore

should

be

part of the main plugin

[ ] Does not matter me.

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#24

The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-bundle. The
next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper name,
which represents its contents.

What would be a good name for this bundle?

I'd prefer customization or branding.

What are your opinions?

Cheers, thomas

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#25

Hi Thomas,

> What would be a good name for this bundle?
>
> I'd prefer customization or branding.

I like your suggestions and personally prefer "branding".

Cheers,
Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:

···

The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-bundle. The
next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper name,
which represents its contents.

What would be a good name for this bundle?

I'd prefer customization or branding.

What are your opinions?

Cheers, thomas

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#26

Done.
Splashscreen finally renamed to Branding. All references updated, everything
committed. So my work on this issue is finished.

But I've another idea: Would it make sense to provide "theme"-support for
the sip-communicator. So that colors, fonts and so on can be customized?

Cheers, Thomas

···

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2007 11:12
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

> What would be a good name for this bundle?
>
> I'd prefer customization or branding.

I like your suggestions and personally prefer "branding".

Cheers,
Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:
> The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-
bundle. The
> next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper
name,
> which represents its contents.
>
> What would be a good name for this bundle?
>
> I'd prefer customization or branding.
>
> What are your opinions?
>
> Cheers, thomas
>
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#27

Yes, especially if S-C can use an existing theme system, like WinAmp
skins or some other popular softphone theme format (if one exists).

···

On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:03 +0100, Thomas Hofer wrote:

But I've another idea: Would it make sense to provide "theme"-support for
the sip-communicator. So that colors, fonts and so on can be customized?

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2007 11:12
> An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
> Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> > What would be a good name for this bundle?
> >
> > I'd prefer customization or branding.
>
> I like your suggestions and personally prefer "branding".
>
> Cheers,
> Yana
>
> Thomas Hofer wrote:
> > The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-
> bundle. The
> > next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper
> name,
> > which represents its contents.
> >
> > What would be a good name for this bundle?
> >
> > I'd prefer customization or branding.
> >
> > What are your opinions?
> >
> > Cheers, thomas
> >
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#28

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Hofer wrote:

Done.
Splashscreen finally renamed to Branding. All references updated, everything
committed. So my work on this issue is finished.

Great! There was just a little issue with the felix.client.run.properties file. You have probably forgot to commit it, because felix was trying to load the splashscreen.jar, instead of the branding.jar, but I have fixed that.

But I've another idea: Would it make sense to provide "theme"-support for
the sip-communicator. So that colors, fonts and so on can be customized?

That's indeed a good idea, we have already planned to do that, but we have to do some more research on existing solutions.

Cheers,
Yana

···

Cheers, Thomas

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2007 11:12
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

> What would be a good name for this bundle?
>
> I'd prefer customization or branding.

I like your suggestions and personally prefer "branding".

Cheers,
Yana

Thomas Hofer wrote:

The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-

bundle. The

next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper

name,

which represents its contents.

What would be a good name for this bundle?

I'd prefer customization or branding.

What are your opinions?

Cheers, thomas

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#29

Yes, indeed. I forgot. Sorry
Cheers, thomas

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 04. Dezember 2007 16:54
An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
Betreff: Re: AW: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Hofer wrote:
> Done.
> Splashscreen finally renamed to Branding. All references updated,
everything
> committed. So my work on this issue is finished.

Great! There was just a little issue with the
felix.client.run.properties file. You have probably forgot to commit
it,
because felix was trying to load the splashscreen.jar, instead of the
branding.jar, but I have fixed that.

>
> But I've another idea: Would it make sense to provide "theme"-support
for
> the sip-communicator. So that colors, fonts and so on can be
customized?

That's indeed a good idea, we have already planned to do that, but we
have to do some more research on existing solutions.

Cheers,
Yana

>
> Cheers, Thomas
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Yana Stamcheva [mailto:yana@sip-communicator.org]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2007 11:12
>> An: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
>> Betreff: Re: [sip-comm-dev] refactoring the about-dialog
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> > What would be a good name for this bundle?
>> >
>> > I'd prefer customization or branding.
>>
>> I like your suggestions and personally prefer "branding".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yana
>>
>> Thomas Hofer wrote:
>>> The About-Dialog is now refactored and moved to the splashscreen-
>> bundle. The
>>> next step will be the renaming the splashscreen bundle to a proper
>> name,
>>> which represents its contents.
>>>
>>> What would be a good name for this bundle?
>>>
>>> I'd prefer customization or branding.
>>>
>>> What are your opinions?
>>>
>>> Cheers, thomas
>>>
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