[sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation


#1

Hi,
I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference whiteboard),
but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to SIP-Comm: a
mail plugin

-- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact list) simply
by clicking on it
-- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send files :wink: )

-- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation system -
'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
-- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable (platform-independent)
-- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary, manage
IMAP/POP3
-- For the moment I use the address of the contact (contact.getAddress () )
with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information (vcard) from
the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
but it doesn't work very well now ...

Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can do a
patch)

Regards,
Julien


#2

Hi Julien,

That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion. The screenshots look very promising.

Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.

Best regards,
Chris.

路路路

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聽聽From: Julien
聽聽To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
聽聽Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
聽聽Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation

聽聽Hi,
聽聽I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference whiteboard),
聽聽but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to SIP-Comm: a mail plugin

聽聽-- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact list) simply by clicking on it
聽聽-- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send files :wink: )
聽聽-- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
聽聽-- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable (platform-independent)
聽聽-- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary, manage IMAP/POP3
聽聽-- For the moment I use the address of the contact (contact.getAddress () )
聽聽with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
聽聽with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information (vcard) from
聽聽the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
聽聽but it doesn't work very well now ...

聽聽Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can do a patch)

聽聽Regards,
聽聽Julien

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#3

Hi Julien

I agree with the first opinion. Your screenshots seems to be very great.

In your message you said that it works with protocols that use e-mail login

but for people who use an old version of ICQ login are numbers and for RSS

you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

C茅dric

Christian Vincenot <vincenot@cyberspace7.net> a 茅crit :

路路路

Hi Julien,

That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion. The screenshots look very promising.

Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.

Best regards,
Chris.

聽聽----- Original Message -----
聽聽From: Julien
聽聽To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
聽聽Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
聽聽Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation

聽聽Hi,
聽聽I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference whiteboard),
聽聽but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to SIP-Comm: a mail plugin

聽聽-- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact list) simply by clicking on it
聽聽-- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send files :wink: )
聽聽-- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
聽聽-- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable (platform-independent)
聽聽-- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary, manage IMAP/POP3
聽聽-- For the moment I use the address of the contact (contact.getAddress () )
聽聽with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
聽聽with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information (vcard) from
聽聽the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
聽聽but it doesn't work very well now ...

聽聽Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can do a patch)

聽聽Regards,
聽聽Julien

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#4

Thank Christian and Cedric :slight_smile:
The plugin works currently with msn and yahoo protocols (first goal)

you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

For this problem I propose a system like the ServerStoredDetails but
locally:
net.java.sip.communicator.service.protocol.LocalStoredDetails" with
informations stored locally for contacts (private mail, professional mail,
address, tel ...)

Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.

next week, promise :wink:

Regards,
Julien

路路路

2008/3/20, Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr < Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>:

Hi Julien

I agree with the first opinion. Your screenshots seems to be very great.

In your message you said that it works with protocols that use e-mail
login

but for people who use an old version of ICQ login are numbers and for RSS

you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

C茅dric

Christian Vincenot <vincenot@cyberspace7.net> a 茅crit :

> Hi Julien,
>
> That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion.
> The screenshots look very promising.
>
> Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.
>
> Best regards,
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julien
> To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
> Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference
whiteboard),
> but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to
> SIP-Comm: a mail plugin
>
> -- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact
> list) simply by clicking on it
> -- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send
> files :wink: )
> -- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation
> system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
> -- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable
(platform-independent)
> -- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary,
> manage IMAP/POP3
> -- For the moment I use the address of the contact (contact.getAddress() )
> with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
> with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information (vcard)
from
> the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
> but it doesn't work very well now ...
>
> Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can
> do a patch)
>
>
> Regards,
> Julien
>
>
>
>
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#5

Hey Julien,

This is quite nice indeed. We've been thinking about adding similar
functionality to SIP Communicator for a while now so I am glad to know
you implemented this.

However, I guess I personally would have expected to have the send mail
button open the default mailer for the current user. This way people
would be able to use a familiar interface, their addressbook (in case
they'd like to CC someone), spell-checking etc.. Besides it would also
mean fewer dependencies for SC (even though it's included inside the
bundle, which is cool, JavaMail remains a dependency). This is only my
opinion as an individual though, so I am curious to know what others think.

Cheers
Emil

Julien 薪邪锌懈褋邪:

路路路

Thank Christian and Cedric :slight_smile:
The plugin works currently with msn and yahoo protocols (first goal)

you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

For this problem I propose a system like the ServerStoredDetails but
locally:
net.java.sip.communicator.service.protocol.LocalStoredDetails" with
informations stored locally for contacts (private mail, professional
mail, address, tel ...)

Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.

next week, promise :wink:

Regards,
Julien

2008/3/20, Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
<mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>
<Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
<mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>>:

聽聽聽聽Hi Julien

聽聽聽聽I agree with the first opinion. Your screenshots seems to be very great.

聽聽聽聽In your message you said that it works with protocols that use
聽聽聽聽e-mail login

聽聽聽聽but for people who use an old version of ICQ login are numbers and
聽聽聽聽for RSS

聽聽聽聽you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

聽聽聽聽C茅dric

聽聽聽聽Christian Vincenot <vincenot@cyberspace7.net
聽聽聽聽<mailto:vincenot@cyberspace7.net>> a 茅crit :

聽聽聽聽> Hi Julien,
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion.
聽聽聽聽> The screenshots look very promising.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Best regards,
聽聽聽聽> Chris.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> ----- Original Message -----
聽聽聽聽> From: Julien
聽聽聽聽> To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
聽聽聽聽<mailto:dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net>
聽聽聽聽> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
聽聽聽聽> Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Hi,
聽聽聽聽> I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference
聽聽聽聽whiteboard),
聽聽聽聽> but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to
聽聽聽聽> SIP-Comm: a mail plugin
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> -- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact
聽聽聽聽> list) simply by clicking on it
聽聽聽聽> -- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send
聽聽聽聽> files :wink: )
聽聽聽聽> -- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation
聽聽聽聽> system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
聽聽聽聽> -- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable
聽聽聽聽(platform-independent)
聽聽聽聽> -- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary,
聽聽聽聽> manage IMAP/POP3
聽聽聽聽> -- For the moment I use the address of the contact
聽聽聽聽(contact.getAddress () )
聽聽聽聽> with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
聽聽聽聽> with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information
聽聽聽聽(vcard) from
聽聽聽聽> the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
聽聽聽聽> but it doesn't work very well now ...
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can
聽聽聽聽> do a patch)
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Regards,
聽聽聽聽> Julien
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
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#6

Oh forgot to mention that opening the default mailer would also spare
the user the trouble of explicitly configuring an smtp server for SIP
Communicator.

What do you think?
Emil

Emil Ivov 薪邪锌懈褋邪:

路路路

Hey Julien,

This is quite nice indeed. We've been thinking about adding similar
functionality to SIP Communicator for a while now so I am really glad to know
you implemented this

However, I guess I personally would have expected to have the send mail
button open the default mailer for the current user. This way people
would be able to use a familiar interface, their addressbook (in case
they'd like to CC someone), spell-checking etc.. Besides it would also
mean fewer dependencies for SC (even though it's included inside the
bundle, which is cool, JavaMail remains a dependency). This is only my
opinion as an individual though, so I am curious to know what others think.

Cheers
Emil

Julien 薪邪锌懈褋邪:

Thank Christian and Cedric :slight_smile:
The plugin works currently with msn and yahoo protocols (first goal)

you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

For this problem I propose a system like the ServerStoredDetails but
locally:
net.java.sip.communicator.service.protocol.LocalStoredDetails" with
informations stored locally for contacts (private mail, professional
mail, address, tel ...)

Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.

next week, promise :wink:

Regards,
Julien

2008/3/20, Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
<mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>
<Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
<mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>>:

聽聽聽聽Hi Julien

聽聽聽聽I agree with the first opinion. Your screenshots seems to be very great.

聽聽聽聽In your message you said that it works with protocols that use
聽聽聽聽e-mail login

聽聽聽聽but for people who use an old version of ICQ login are numbers and
聽聽聽聽for RSS

聽聽聽聽you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?

聽聽聽聽C茅dric

聽聽聽聽Christian Vincenot <vincenot@cyberspace7.net
聽聽聽聽<mailto:vincenot@cyberspace7.net>> a 茅crit :

聽聽聽聽> Hi Julien,
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion.
聽聽聽聽> The screenshots look very promising.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Best regards,
聽聽聽聽> Chris.
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> ----- Original Message -----
聽聽聽聽> From: Julien
聽聽聽聽> To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
聽聽聽聽<mailto:dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net>
聽聽聽聽> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
聽聽聽聽> Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Hi,
聽聽聽聽> I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference
聽聽聽聽whiteboard),
聽聽聽聽> but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to
聽聽聽聽> SIP-Comm: a mail plugin
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> -- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact
聽聽聽聽> list) simply by clicking on it
聽聽聽聽> -- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send
聽聽聽聽> files :wink: )
聽聽聽聽> -- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation
聽聽聽聽> system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
聽聽聽聽> -- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable
聽聽聽聽(platform-independent)
聽聽聽聽> -- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary,
聽聽聽聽> manage IMAP/POP3
聽聽聽聽> -- For the moment I use the address of the contact
聽聽聽聽(contact.getAddress () )
聽聽聽聽> with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
聽聽聽聽> with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information
聽聽聽聽(vcard) from
聽聽聽聽> the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
聽聽聽聽> but it doesn't work very well now ...
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can
聽聽聽聽> do a patch)
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽> Regards,
聽聽聽聽> Julien
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
聽聽聽聽>
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#7

Linux has the OpenURL/ExecuteURL APIs as part of FreeDesktop.org, which
is supported the same way by each of GNOME and KDE. An app can show a UI
to a "foreign" MIME type object whose URL (only, not necessarily its
type) is known to the GUI app. If that object is selected for retrieval,
the app calls the API, which asks the OS to find the right registered
app for that URL protocol to retrieve it. Once it's retrieved, that app
can call the API again to ask the OS to pass the data to the right
registered app for opening that MIME type. This behavior is derived from
how Netscape would work, with its own registry, but is now generalized
for the OS to offer that kind of handoff to any app calling the API.
It's how Firefox handles external apps for external MIME types, etc.

聽聽If SIP-Communicator used that API, it could present a generic GUI to
any app/protocol objects, and just hand them to the OS if they're
foreign, for simple integration with other desktop apps. a "mailto:" URL
would open the registered default email app, like Evolution.

聽聽I think other OS'es have the same feature, like using IE's registry in
Windows. There's probably a Java abstraction of it, but I don't know
what it is.

路路路

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 22:48 +0100, Emil Ivov wrote:

Oh forgot to mention that opening the default mailer would also spare
the user the trouble of explicitly configuring an smtp server for SIP
Communicator.

What do you think?
Emil

Emil Ivov 薪邪锌懈褋邪:
> Hey Julien,
>
> This is quite nice indeed. We've been thinking about adding similar
> functionality to SIP Communicator for a while now so I am really glad to know
> you implemented this
>
> However, I guess I personally would have expected to have the send mail
> button open the default mailer for the current user. This way people
> would be able to use a familiar interface, their addressbook (in case
> they'd like to CC someone), spell-checking etc.. Besides it would also
> mean fewer dependencies for SC (even though it's included inside the
> bundle, which is cool, JavaMail remains a dependency). This is only my
> opinion as an individual though, so I am curious to know what others think.
>
> Cheers
> Emil
>
> Julien 薪邪锌懈褋邪:
>> Thank Christian and Cedric :slight_smile:
>> The plugin works currently with msn and yahoo protocols (first goal)
>>
>>> you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?
>> For this problem I propose a system like the ServerStoredDetails but
>> locally:
>> net.java.sip.communicator.service.protocol.LocalStoredDetails" with
>> informations stored locally for contacts (private mail, professional
>> mail, address, tel ...)
>>
>>> Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.
>> next week, promise :wink:
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien
>>
>>
>> 2008/3/20, Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
>> <mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>
>> <Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr
>> <mailto:Cedric.Litzelmann@ulp.u-strasbg.fr>>:
>>
>> Hi Julien
>>
>> I agree with the first opinion. Your screenshots seems to be very great.
>>
>> In your message you said that it works with protocols that use
>> e-mail login
>>
>> but for people who use an old version of ICQ login are numbers and
>> for RSS
>>
>> you have an url login. Do you have some idea for this ?
>>
>>
>> C茅dric
>>
>>
>>
>> Christian Vincenot <vincenot@cyberspace7.net
>> <mailto:vincenot@cyberspace7.net>> a 茅crit :
>>
>>
>> > Hi Julien,
>> >
>> > That's really great!! It would be very useful in my humble opinion.
>> > The screenshots look very promising.
>> >
>> > Could you please send a patch? I can't wait to test this feature.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Chris.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Julien
>> > To: dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net
>> <mailto:dev@sip-communicator.dev.java.net>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:23 PM
>> > Subject: [sip-comm-dev] Mail Plugin - presentation
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm currently working on a multi-user whiteboard (conference
>> whiteboard),
>> > but in parallel I've coded a small feature (I think usefull) to
>> > SIP-Comm: a mail plugin
>> >
>> > -- it's possible to send e-mails to a contact (in the contact
>> > list) simply by clicking on it
>> > -- it's also possible to send attachments (SIP-Comm can now send
>> > files :wink: )
>> > -- the plugin uses JavaMail (a .jar nightmare with activation
>> > system - 'jaf'), and it's integrated into the plugin
>> > -- no dependencies (external lib), it's portable
>> (platform-independent)
>> > -- SMTP is used (secure possible) and can also, if necessary,
>> > manage IMAP/POP3
>> > -- For the moment I use the address of the contact
>> (contact.getAddress () )
>> > with protocols that use e-mail/login (MSN, yahoo...)
>> > with Jabber it's possible (I think) to retrieve information
>> (vcard) from
>> > the user (OperationSetServerStoredContactInfo / EmailAddressDetail),
>> > but it doesn't work very well now ...
>> >
>> > Do you think it's interesting? (I've a working beta-version, I can
>> > do a patch)
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Julien
>> >
>> >
>> >
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