It now seems based on all these discussions that it will be
difficult (let me know if these points are correct): 1. there may
be future issues with google
Exactly, we can not be shure how google as a company decides to be
(in)compatible with the rest of the world, additionaly there are lots
of reports about failed video with google.
2. There is no voice/video with facebook
the most important point is that there is no federation over facebook,
so everybody would need to use facebook.com as their server. i think
that video communication would be possible in theory
3. Jitsi cannot communicate with google over the google web
application even non-securely which means I couldn't use jitsi for
both secure communication for those installing jitsi/google and
unsecure for the infrequent communicator over google/web (whom I
couldn't get to install jitsi)
exactly, there is some hope that this might change with the
standartisation of webrtc but that is not shure at all
4. I could not use only one jitsi login but would need to an
account for each service
It depends: you just need one account in the free XMPP network (this
excludes facebook) and you can communicate with everybody in it (just
like email). You do need aim/facebook/whatever accounts to use those
So I'm limited to using either an XMPP or SIP account and then to
get the frequent communicators to make a new login/password for
themselves on what I choose.
On the server you choose or any other federating XMPP server. For sip
this is a bit more complicated, additionaly jitsi does not support ice
for sip which is a major showstopper when your sip provider does not
provide a relay.
Now the question is what is the best route if I want good quality
voice/video. Chatting has not been a problem but voice has. So far
I used getonsip XMPP and had one two people set up jit.si.
chatting worked fine but voice and video have been worse quality
than using gmail-gmail (no jitsi).
No real idea about this� maybee your cpu is overloaded from encrypting
and encoding the video?
Before I go further the question is Should I use XMPP OR SIP if
starting fresh and guiding people to establish a new login account.
I would recommend using XMPP as the XMPP network is generaly better
federated then the SIP network (they make money by selling POTS so it
would make no sense to provide good connectivity oven non-POTS lines)
and jitsi supports ICE on XMPP.
Is there a quality difference between the two for a. chat
i am not exactly shure about this but i think XMPP is better with
multiple simultanous logins from multiple devices and presence
b. voice c. video
Should be more or less the same for both protocols.
But, due to ICE and jingle nodes XMPP has the better connectivity
without requiring the server owner to run an expensive relay
Whichever one is chosen - is it important for quality that the
others get an account on the same service/server as me or is that
not an issue?
see above, but i should mention that some XMPP servers have some
federation problems from time to time. for example jit.si itself has
such problems for a month now. on the other hand jit.si provides a
jinglenodes relay which helps a lot when you both are behind
restrictive nats. some other servers do so, too but not all.
There is something interesting that may tie into this. Getonsip.com
is a free service and when you set up an account it automatically
makes two separate accounts with the same user name/password one
SIP and one XMPP - they both show up on jitsi. Why don't they use
one OR the other?
Because there are some severs using sip and some using XMPP. as the
protcols are not compatible you would be unable to connect to people
on the other network.
Jit.si is only XMPP - is that correct?
Any other thoughts?
about the video/audio quality: check the settings for video and audio
codecs and experiment a bit.
Am 17.07.2013 17:34, schrieb Joe: