[jitsi-users] Telepathy / Jitsi interoperability for Jingle


#1

Hi,

as a jabber addict, I tend to tell all people to prefer Jabber over
Skype, and while doing so I naturally have to recommend client software.

For those who were also clever enough to switch to Debian, I recommend
the Telepathy framework, because it has great desktop integration and
just works out of the box for everything.

For Windows, I recommend Jitsi, because it has the richest feature set.

Unfortunately, I never get Jingle sessions, e.g. audio, working between
the two. Telepathy to Telepathy works great, and Jitsi to Jitsi works
great, but I cannot seem to get Jitsi to talk to Telepathy.

DOes anyone have any idea where this lack of interoperability comes
from?

-nik

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#2

Hey Dominik,

Hi,

as a jabber addict, I tend to tell all people to prefer Jabber over
Skype, and while doing so I naturally have to recommend client software.

For those who were also clever enough to switch to Debian, I recommend
the Telepathy framework, because it has great desktop integration and
just works out of the box for everything.

Well apparently not everything ;).

For Windows, I recommend Jitsi, because it has the richest feature set.

It has the same feature set on Debian.

Unfortunately, I never get Jingle sessions, e.g. audio, working between
the two. Telepathy to Telepathy works great, and Jitsi to Jitsi works
great, but I cannot seem to get Jitsi to talk to Telepathy.

This actually used to work. I remember we even implemented support for something non-standard just so that things would work with Empathy.

At some point we had to move to other issues and haven't really checked what the situation was since then.

It is my understanding that development on Telepathy/Empathy isn't what it used to be. The devs from Collabora (historically the main contributor) seem to be concentrating on other things and Telepathy/Empathy are not exactly a top of the list priority for them any more. I could be wrong.

DOes anyone have any idea where this lack of interoperability comes
from?

It's probably a number of small things. We'd be ready to have a look at these as long as someone is ready to do the same at the Telepathy side.

Emil

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On 21.07.13, 12:05, Dominik George wrote:

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#3

21.07.2013 14:05, Dominik George пишет:

Hi,

as a jabber addict, I tend to tell all people to prefer Jabber over
Skype, and while doing so I naturally have to recommend client software.

For those who were also clever enough to switch to Debian, I recommend
the Telepathy framework, because it has great desktop integration and
just works out of the box for everything.

For Windows, I recommend Jitsi, because it has the richest feature set.

Unfortunately, I never get Jingle sessions, e.g. audio, working between
the two. Telepathy to Telepathy works great, and Jitsi to Jitsi works
great, but I cannot seem to get Jitsi to talk to Telepathy.

DOes anyone have any idea where this lack of interoperability comes
from?

-nik

I also can not get VoIP call via XMPP between Jitsi and Empathy. But I have fine Audio/Video sessions with same clients via SIP accounts. The only disadvantage of this method is that the status of contacts is not visible. So I keep trying to establish communication through XMPP. Or maybe there is a way to get the contacts status in the SIP?

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#4

Hi,

P.S. It might be better to keep discussions on the list though, so
that other Jitsi developers can also follow.

I always forget to add the list address when replying, because whatever
mailing list software the server runs does not set proper list headers.

-nik

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#5

Hi,

after a lot of more issues with Telepathy, for now I just chose to
switch to Jitsi.

Don't get used to it ;)!

-nik

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#6

Hey Dominik,

Hi,

P.S. It might be better to keep discussions on the list though, so
that other Jitsi developers can also follow.

I always forget to add the list address when replying, because whatever
mailing list software the server runs does not set proper list headers.

I believe it does. We use mailman and here are the headers it sets:

List-Id: Jitsi Developers <dev.jitsi.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.jitsi.org/mailman/options/dev>,
<mailto:dev-request@jitsi.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev>
List-Post: <mailto:dev@jitsi.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dev-request@jitsi.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.jitsi.org/mailman/listinfo/dev>,
<mailto:dev-request@jitsi.org?subject=subscribe>

Many users however (including myself) hit "Reply to all" when using
lists. This is mainly because people sometimes post without being
subscribed.

As an effect you might receive my direct reply before the one from the
list, in which case hitting a simple reply would return the message to
me.

(Which is one more reason to always use "Reply to all" :slight_smile: )

Cheers,
Emil

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On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> wrote:
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-nik

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