[jitsi-users] synchronizing messages


#1

Hey,
(for quick read see the bold text)
I'm noob in working with jitsi. Seen it on prism break and would like to give it a try. I'm trying to use it instead of facebook and gmail chats and apps. For both of these I'm frequently sending messages from all: web, some android app or jitsi app. All of them, but jitsi, synchronizes all the messages (recieved and sent) so I can follow up in chatting on different one.

*In jitsi I can't see any messages I've sent from other place (facebook/gmail website, messagner application)*.
Is that a bug/feature/am I missing something in settings?

Thanks,
Jakub


#2

Hey Jakub,

Both Facebook and Google use proprietary ways of synchronising client
instances and none of them supports carbons, which is the standard
way.

In other words: Jitsi simply never sees the messages that it would need to sync.

Emil

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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Jakub Podlaha <j.podlaha@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey,
(for quick read see the bold text)
I'm noob in working with jitsi. Seen it on prism break and would like to
give it a try. I'm trying to use it instead of facebook and gmail chats and
apps. For both of these I'm frequently sending messages from all: web, some
android app or jitsi app. All of them, but jitsi, synchronizes all the
messages (recieved and sent) so I can follow up in chatting on different
one.

In jitsi I can't see any messages I've sent from other place (facebook/gmail
website, messagner application).
Is that a bug/feature/am I missing something in settings?

Thanks,
Jakub

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#3

Hi,

Both Facebook and Google use proprietary ways of synchronising client
instances and none of them supports carbons, which is the standard
way.

I have a question here for my general understanding:

Does message carbons sync all messages, both incoming and outgoin? I
always thought that it onlys carbon copies *outgoing* messages.

(On a side note, I do not see any of this between my Desktop and Android
Jitsi ... any hints on that?)

In other words: Jitsi simply never sees the messages that it would need to sync.

Maybe for a full sync, Message Archive Management would be better
suited, as carbons, independent of the above, only sees messages while
the client is running.

Cheers,
Nik

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#4

Hi,

Both Facebook and Google use proprietary ways of synchronising client
instances and none of them supports carbons, which is the standard
way.

I have a question here for my general understanding:

Does message carbons sync all messages, both incoming and outgoin? I
always thought that it onlys carbon copies *outgoing* messages.

Both.

(On a side note, I do not see any of this between my Desktop and Android
Jitsi ... any hints on that?)

Most likely your server doesn't support them. We don't currently have
this on jit.si as Openfire does not support carbons.

In other words: Jitsi simply never sees the messages that it would need to sync.

Maybe for a full sync, Message Archive Management would be better
suited, as carbons, independent of the above, only sees messages while
the client is running.

If the client is not running then messages can only be sent to the
bare jid so they will later be sent to the first client that connects
which could, at that point apply carbons.

MAM is not currently on our Roadmap (choices have to be made so ... )

Emil

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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> wrote:

Cheers,
Nik

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