[jitsi-users] Skype


#1

Hi!

How to configure Skype account in Jitsi?

Best Regards,
Edmund


#2

not possible (proprietary protocol) and IMHO also not needed - if you
want to respect and protect your privacy use Jitsi with XMPP or SIP for
secure audio/video (zRTP encryption - starts automatically ) and
chatting (OTR encryption - can be configured to start automatically) -
everything based on open standards

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On 11/17/13 5:29 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote:

Hi!

How to configure Skype account in Jitsi?

Best Regards,
Edmund

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#3

Hi!

not possible (proprietary protocol) and IMHO also not needed - if you
want to respect and protect your privacy use Jitsi with XMPP or SIP
for secure audio/video (zRTP encryption - starts automatically ) and
chatting (OTR encryption - can be configured to start automatically) -
everything based on open standards

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

Best Regards,
Edmund


#4

This is the common challenge for all of us - to change habits...and this
is a very long way to go.

Currently I cannot avoid to use Skype and Jitsi in parallel, as still
too many people i) dont know Jitsi ii) dont care about privacy
protection iii) dont want to switch to something else because already
used to..
Also to setup Jitsi requires a bit more effort than using Skype, and
audio/video quality depends also on the used network - but its all worthy...

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On 11/17/13 5:55 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote:

Hi!

not possible (proprietary protocol) and IMHO also not needed - if you
want to respect and protect your privacy use Jitsi with XMPP or SIP
for secure audio/video (zRTP encryption - starts automatically ) and
chatting (OTR encryption - can be configured to start automatically)
- everything based on open standards

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

Best Regards,
Edmund

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#5

edmund.laugasson@gmail.com writes:

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

Doing this via XMPP would, i believe, require support from XMPP servers
(e.g. OpenFire), not from clients such as Jitsi. Servers would need to
provide a Skype 'transport' / 'gateway':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP#Connecting_to_other_protocols

This in turn would require the Skype protocol to be reverse-engineered;
and even if that's possible, Skype/Microsoft might not allow
XMPP-to-Skype services. The fact that there aren't (as far as i'm aware)
already alternative clients to the official Skype client suggests to me
that one or both of these issues are basically insurmountable at the
moment.

Alexis.


#6

edmund.laugasson@gmail.com writes:

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

To correct myself and my last post to the list, i've just found this:

https://vstalk.codeplex.com/discussions/452260

i'd definitely be interested to hear people's experiences of using
this or other XMPP<->Skype services!

Alexis.


#7

Wanted to quickly mention that there are server federation options. Not
sure how the desktop API closing is going to affect the options, but it's
worth looking at. Even running your own Openfire instance federated with
Skype, then having multiple accounts in jitsi would not be so bad.

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On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:15 PM, "Mr.Smith" <mr.smith476@gmail.com> wrote:

This is the common challenge for all of us - to change habits...and this
is a very long way to go.

Currently I cannot avoid to use Skype and Jitsi in parallel, as still too
many people i) dont know Jitsi ii) dont care about privacy protection iii)
dont want to switch to something else because already used to..
Also to setup Jitsi requires a bit more effort than using Skype, and
audio/video quality depends also on the used network - but its all worthy...

On 11/17/13 5:55 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote:

Hi!

not possible (proprietary protocol) and IMHO also not needed - if you want
to respect and protect your privacy use Jitsi with XMPP or SIP for secure
audio/video (zRTP encryption - starts automatically ) and chatting (OTR
encryption - can be configured to start automatically) - everything based
on open standards

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try avoid -
that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just thought, that
probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite hard to switch all
users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on smartphones and a lot of people
still using Skype in that reason and cannot use Jitsi.

Best Regards,
Edmund

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#8

This works fairly well with Pidgin (and OTR):
https://code.google.com/p/skype4pidgin/

It is one of the reasons I still think about going back to Pidgin
(that and IRC support in Pidgin)....

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wrote:

edmund.laugasson@gmail.com writes:

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

To correct myself and my last post to the list, i've just found this:

https://vstalk.codeplex.com/discussions/452260

i'd definitely be interested to hear people's experiences of using
this or other XMPP<->Skype services!

Alexis.

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#9

I do believe this function will be gone once the Desktop API closes down in
December. Can't wait until MSFT releases whatever URI based solution they
keep talking about, then it might be as easy as writing some HTTP POSTs,
etc.

Matt Brown

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Carolyn Anhalt <carolyn@anhalt.org> wrote:

This works fairly well with Pidgin (and OTR):
https://code.google.com/p/skype4pidgin/

It is one of the reasons I still think about going back to Pidgin
(that and IRC support in Pidgin)....

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> edmund.laugasson@gmail.com writes:
>
>> Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
>> avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
>> thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
>> hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
>> smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
>> cannot use Jitsi.
>
> To correct myself and my last post to the list, i've just found this:
>
> https://vstalk.codeplex.com/discussions/452260
>
> i'd definitely be interested to hear people's experiences of using
> this or other XMPP<->Skype services!
>
>
> Alexis.
>
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#10

I have contacted once the creator of this skype4pidgin plugin for
similar approach in jitsi, but not successful.

Even there is a "skype4java" development out there:
https://github.com/taksan/skype-java-api

As Matt mentioned once Microsoft drops Skype API all these approaches
are over.

in terms of only secure chatting Pidgin is great, to combine secure chat
plus secure audio/video Jitsi is probably the only way to go

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On 11/17/13 6:48 AM, Carolyn Anhalt wrote:

This works fairly well with Pidgin (and OTR):
https://code.google.com/p/skype4pidgin/

It is one of the reasons I still think about going back to Pidgin
(that and IRC support in Pidgin)....

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wrote:

edmund.laugasson@gmail.com writes:

Yes - I know about its proprietary state - I hate this also and try
avoid - that's why I started looking and found Jitsi. But I just
thought, that probably through XMPP it would be possible. It is quite
hard to switch all users to Jitsi - this is not yet working on
smartphones and a lot of people still using Skype in that reason and
cannot use Jitsi.

To correct myself and my last post to the list, i've just found this:

https://vstalk.codeplex.com/discussions/452260

i'd definitely be interested to hear people's experiences of using
this or other XMPP<->Skype services!

Alexis.

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#11

carolyn@anhalt.org writes:

This works fairly well with Pidgin (and OTR):
https://code.google.com/p/skype4pidgin/

It is one of the reasons I still think about going back to Pidgin
(that and IRC support in Pidgin)....

Neat! Thank you for sharing this. :slight_smile:

When i first started looking into XMPP transports to other services, i
was assuming that i would be able to use them to chat to people on
e.g. Facebook without needing a Facebook account myself; but of course
this turned out not to be the case. (As far as i'm aware .... Please
correct me otherwise!) i suspect a number of people might think "Well,
if I need a Skype account to use an XMPP<->Skype gateway, I might as
well just keep using the Skype client, which doesn't rely on a
third-party server being up and available."

Alexis.