[jitsi-users] Skinning Jitsi?


#1

How do I create a custom Skin for Jitsi?

My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.

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Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555


#2

LOL, if it can comfort you, some of the hackers in our wireless
community say icons in jitsi look gay.. AHAH

*Federico Capoano*

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Il 26/01/2012 18.45, Brian Peyatt ha scritto:

My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.


#3

Unfortunately there's currently no straightforward way of doing so.

Emil

--sent from my mobile

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On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Brian Peyatt <brian.peyatt@scanlinevfx.com> wrote:

How do I create a custom Skin for Jitsi?

My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.

--
Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31


#4

By 'no straightforward way' are you suggesting that it takes a recompile?
or just a lot of hoops to jump through?

As silly as it sounds, this is causing my users to stop using Jitsi.

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On 1/26/2012 10:37 AM, Emil Ivov wrote:

Unfortunately there's currently no straightforward way of doing so.

Emil

--sent from my mobile

On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Brian Peyatt > <brian.peyatt@scanlinevfx.com <mailto:brian.peyatt@scanlinevfx.com>> > wrote:
> How do I create a custom Skin for Jitsi?
>
> My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.
>
> --
> Brian Peyatt
> Systems Engineer
> ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
> Work: 310-827-1555
>

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org <mailto:emcho@jitsi.org> PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31

--
Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555


#5

Of course the developers are working hard on features, which is
great. But I too believe there is a legitimate need for work on the
interface and skinning capabilities. As silly as it seems to us
more technical/programmer types, the truth is… interface/GUI is
HUGE to the average user. As Jitsi develops and becomes more
feature-rich, and more visible as an alternative to Skype, it really
needs to have that very smooth and polished look exhibited by the
likes of Skype and others. People often get immediately turned off
by something that looks ‘different’.

Any comments from the dev's on how much future attention is being

planned for the interface/GUI?

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-- Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555

#6

Gee, this sounds like a familiar discussion...

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:58 PM, <m.jitsi@grojguys.com> wrote:

Of course the developers are working hard on features, which is great.
But I too believe there is a legitimate need for work on the interface and
skinning capabilities. As silly as it seems to us more
technical/programmer types, the truth is... interface/GUI is HUGE to the
average user. As Jitsi develops and becomes more feature-rich, and more
visible as an alternative to Skype, it really needs to have that very
smooth and polished look exhibited by the likes of Skype and others.
People often get immediately turned off by something that looks
'different'.

Any comments from the dev's on how much future attention is being planned
for the interface/GUI?

On 1/26/2012 11:27 AM, Brian Peyatt wrote:

By 'no straightforward way' are you suggesting that it takes a recompile?
or just a lot of hoops to jump through?

As silly as it sounds, this is causing my users to stop using Jitsi.

On 1/26/2012 10:37 AM, Emil Ivov wrote:

Unfortunately there's currently no straightforward way of doing so.

Emil

--sent from my mobile

On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Brian Peyatt <brian.peyatt@scanlinevfx.com> > wrote:
> How do I create a custom Skin for Jitsi?
>
> My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.
>
> --
> Brian Peyatt
> Systems Engineer
> ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
> Work: 310-827-1555
>
>

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31

--
Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555

--
There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and
those who don't.

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call: sip:mpicher@sipxecs.info


#7

Hey all,

We (the developers) definitely agree that our interface could be improved
in different ways. Jitsi's current interface is the result of our best
efforts, but there are still a bunch of things that we'd like to see
improved. Most of all, what is necessary is a consistent design effort
which we are currently unable to provide.

So, if anyone on this list is interested in contributing that effort or
knows someone who is, then please speak up.

Cheers,
Emil

Of course the developers are working hard on features, which is great.

But I too believe there is a legitimate need for work on the interface and
skinning capabilities. As silly as it seems to us more
technical/programmer types, the truth is... interface/GUI is HUGE to the
average user. As Jitsi develops and becomes more feature-rich, and more
visible as an alternative to Skype, it really needs to have that very
smooth and polished look exhibited by the likes of Skype and others.
People often get immediately turned off by something that looks
'different'.

Any comments from the dev's on how much future attention is being planned

for the interface/GUI?

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On Thursday, January 26, 2012, <m.jitsi@grojguys.com> wrote:

On 1/26/2012 11:27 AM, Brian Peyatt wrote:

By 'no straightforward way' are you suggesting that it takes a recompile?
or just a lot of hoops to jump through?

As silly as it sounds, this is causing my users to stop using Jitsi.

On 1/26/2012 10:37 AM, Emil Ivov wrote:

Unfortunately there's currently no straightforward way of doing so.

Emil

--sent from my mobile

On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Brian Peyatt <brian.peyatt@scanlinevfx.com> wrote:

How do I create a custom Skin for Jitsi?

My users say it is "too colorful and icony", which just made me laugh.

--
Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31

--
Brian Peyatt
Systems Engineer
ScanlineVFX/Los Angeles
Work: 310-827-1555

--
--sent from my mobile


#8

What about Google summer of code?

Are you going to participate this year and what features are you going
to develop?

Some ideas:

  * Skinnable GUI
  * PGP encryption
  * Mobile version
  * More functions for admins

I could help looking for students as we from Ninux.org will participate
in GSoC and we will promoting our ideas in our community and will look
for skilled students who should be able to accomplish our ideas.

I will probably participate as mentor.

Best regards.

*Federico Capoano*
Web Designer & Web Developer
Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net <http://nemesisdesign.net>
Twitter: @nemesisdesign <http://twitter.com/nemesisdesign/>
PGP Key ID: 308BD46E

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Il 27/01/2012 10.51, Emil Ivov ha scritto:

So, if anyone on this list is interested in contributing that effort
or knows someone who is, then please speak up.


#9

So, if anyone on this list is interested in contributing that effort
or knows someone who is, then please speak up.

What about Google summer of code?

Are you going to participate this year and what features are you going
to develop?

Participation for any organization is only clear after Google announce
the list of accepted organisations. At this point no one could say
whether someone is participating or not.

Some ideas:

    * Skinnable GUI

From our experience, this would probably be too much of a burden for

students. We'll think about it though.

    * PGP encryption

This is not currently on our roadmap. It would probably help if you
could explain what the advantages are compared to OTR.

    * Mobile version

We'll soon be ready with a first Android version. If accepted, we may
decide to give out some gsoc projects that have to do with it.

    * More functions for admins

What exactly do you have in mind?

Cheers,
Emil

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On 27.01.12 12:27, Federico Capoano wrote:

Il 27/01/2012 10.51, Emil Ivov ha scritto:

I could help looking for students as we from Ninux.org will participate
in GSoC and we will promoting our ideas in our community and will look
for skilled students who should be able to accomplish our ideas.

I will probably participate as mentor.

Best regards.

*Federico Capoano*
Web Designer & Web Developer
Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net <http://nemesisdesign.net>
Twitter: @nemesisdesign <http://twitter.com/nemesisdesign/>
PGP Key ID: 308BD46E


#10

Participation for any organization is only clear after Google announce
the list of accepted organisations. At this point no one could say
whether someone is participating or not.

Sure but we are confident we will participate either as an organization
or under the umbrella of another german wireless community.

> Some ideas:
>
> * Skinnable GUI

>From our experience, this would probably be too much of a burden for
students. We'll think about it though.

I agree, we have the same issue with some of our ideas. We would not
want to start a project with someone which has not enough skill to
complete it.

> * PGP encryption

This is not currently on our roadmap. It would probably help if you
could explain what the advantages are compared to OTR.

The advantage is that I can be sure that I am talking to a certain
person and not someone else pretending to be that person. Is it clear?
If i'm not wrong, OTR has been developed to avoid just that, because a
whistleblower might want to communicate with a journalist but without
leaving any proof that it's really him for obvious reason.

While in our case for example we use jitsi to coordinate the development
of our wireless network and of our services (servers, routers, antennas,
ecc.). Many times we need to send passwords and other sensitive
information and it would be nice to be 100% sure that the person i'm
sending the password to is really my friend and not someone which has
hacked into the server (our server has a public ipv6) and is using his
account.

Is jitsi pluggable? We could propose this as a project for our students
as it shouldn't be too hard.

> * Mobile version

We'll soon be ready with a first Android version. If accepted, we may
decide to give out some gsoc projects that have to do with it.

That's really cool. Looking forward to hear news about it.

> * More functions for admins

What exactly do you have in mind?

I mean jabber admins. If you take a look at psi http://psi-im.org/ and
you try to use it as an admin of a jabber server you will se they have
many very useful functionalities (especially user management, access
control lists, access rules, online users, list of users) under the menu
item "service discovery". I attach a (low quality) screenshot:

Pheraps this could be another idea which could be a potential candidate
for GSoC?

*Federico Capoano*
Web Designer & Web Developer
Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net <http://nemesisdesign.net>
Twitter: @nemesisdesign <http://twitter.com/nemesisdesign/>
PGP Key ID: 308BD46E

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Il 27/01/2012 13.40, Emil Ivov ha scritto:


#11

I'm happy to see that one of these ideas has been proposed for the GSOC
2012 with the XMPP standards foundation.

There's someone in our community that might want to try to implement PGP
cryptography in jitsi. I wanted to ask you, would it be possible to add
PGP support with a plugin? How do you advise it would be best to do this?

*Federico Capoano*
Web Designer & Web Developer
Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net <http://nemesisdesign.net>
Twitter: @nemesisdesign <http://twitter.com/nemesisdesign/>
PGP Key ID: 308BD46E

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Il 27/01/2012 14.33, Federico Capoano ha scritto:

Il 27/01/2012 13.40, Emil Ivov ha scritto:

Participation for any organization is only clear after Google announce
the list of accepted organisations. At this point no one could say
whether someone is participating or not.

Sure but we are confident we will participate either as an
organization or under the umbrella of another german wireless community.

> Some ideas:
>
> * Skinnable GUI

>From our experience, this would probably be too much of a burden for
students. We'll think about it though.

I agree, we have the same issue with some of our ideas. We would not
want to start a project with someone which has not enough skill to
complete it.

> * PGP encryption

This is not currently on our roadmap. It would probably help if you
could explain what the advantages are compared to OTR.

The advantage is that I can be sure that I am talking to a certain
person and not someone else pretending to be that person. Is it clear?
If i'm not wrong, OTR has been developed to avoid just that, because a
whistleblower might want to communicate with a journalist but without
leaving any proof that it's really him for obvious reason.

While in our case for example we use jitsi to coordinate the
development of our wireless network and of our services (servers,
routers, antennas, ecc.). Many times we need to send passwords and
other sensitive information and it would be nice to be 100% sure that
the person i'm sending the password to is really my friend and not
someone which has hacked into the server (our server has a public
ipv6) and is using his account.

Is jitsi pluggable? We could propose this as a project for our
students as it shouldn't be too hard.

> * Mobile version

We'll soon be ready with a first Android version. If accepted, we may
decide to give out some gsoc projects that have to do with it.

That's really cool. Looking forward to hear news about it.

> * More functions for admins

What exactly do you have in mind?

I mean jabber admins. If you take a look at psi http://psi-im.org/ and
you try to use it as an admin of a jabber server you will se they have
many very useful functionalities (especially user management, access
control lists, access rules, online users, list of users) under the
menu item "service discovery". I attach a (low quality) screenshot:

Pheraps this could be another idea which could be a potential
candidate for GSoC?


#12

Hey Frederico,

Participation for any organization is only clear after Google announce
the list of accepted organisations. At this point no one could say
whether someone is participating or not.

Sure but we are confident we will participate either as an
organization or under the umbrella of another german wireless community.

> Some ideas:
>
> * Skinnable GUI

>From our experience, this would probably be too much of a burden for
students. We'll think about it though.

I agree, we have the same issue with some of our ideas. We would not
want to start a project with someone which has not enough skill to
complete it.

> * PGP encryption

This is not currently on our roadmap. It would probably help if you
could explain what the advantages are compared to OTR.

The advantage is that I can be sure that I am talking to a certain
person and not someone else pretending to be that person. Is it clear?
If i'm not wrong, OTR has been developed to avoid just that, because a
whistleblower might want to communicate with a journalist but without
leaving any proof that it's really him for obvious reason.

While in our case for example we use jitsi to coordinate the
development of our wireless network and of our services (servers,
routers, antennas, ecc.). Many times we need to send passwords and
other sensitive information and it would be nice to be 100% sure that
the person i'm sending the password to is really my friend and not
someone which has hacked into the server (our server has a public
ipv6) and is using his account.

Is jitsi pluggable? We could propose this as a project for our
students as it shouldn't be too hard.

> * Mobile version

We'll soon be ready with a first Android version. If accepted, we may
decide to give out some gsoc projects that have to do with it.

That's really cool. Looking forward to hear news about it.

> * More functions for admins

What exactly do you have in mind?

I mean jabber admins. If you take a look at psi http://psi-im.org/ and
you try to use it as an admin of a jabber server you will se they have
many very useful functionalities (especially user management, access
control lists, access rules, online users, list of users) under the
menu item "service discovery". I attach a (low quality) screenshot:

Pheraps this could be another idea which could be a potential
candidate for GSoC?

I'm happy to see that one of these ideas has been proposed for the GSOC
2012 with the XMPP standards foundation.

Which one do you have in mind?

There's someone in our community that might want to try to implement PGP
cryptography in jitsi. I wanted to ask you, would it be possible to add
PGP support with a plugin? How do you advise it would be best to do this?

Architecturally, yes. You could check out the way we currently support
OTR and do the same with PGP, unless PGP requires some support on the
protocol level, in which case you would have to do it there.

Hope this helps,
Emil

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On 21.03.12 23:50, Federico Capoano wrote:

Il 27/01/2012 14.33, Federico Capoano ha scritto:

Il 27/01/2012 13.40, Emil Ivov ha scritto:

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