[jitsi-users] SIP Calls


#1

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like "sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com" and make a direct SIP Call?

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#2

Hi John,

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like
"sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com" and make a direct SIP Call?

It is possible but your SIP provider will need to support calling via URI.

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On 5 March 2015 at 10:46, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

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#3

Not sure what you mean, my SIP provider (I run an Asterisk system so I am technically a SIP Provider). ZipDX.com or junctionnetworks.com is probably what you are referring to. But that's sort of saying that each time you want to make a direct call to a SIP URI you have to setup an account with that site first. This isn't how direct SIP calls normally work. my my Media5-phone on my Samsung Galaxy, which would sort of be like Bria, you can just dial the sip address like 200901@login.zipdx.com and it will connect it directly via the internet, not going through an intermediate server. There may be a way of doing it that I'm just not seeing.

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On 03/05/2015 09:14 PM, jungle Boogie wrote:

Hi John,
On 5 March 2015 at 10:46, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like
"sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com" and make a direct SIP Call?

It is possible but your SIP provider will need to support calling via URI.

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#4

Hi John,

Not sure what you mean, my SIP provider (I run an Asterisk system so I am
technically a SIP Provider). ZipDX.com or junctionnetworks.com is probably
what you are referring to. But that's sort of saying that each time you
want to make a direct call to a SIP URI you have to setup an account with
that site first. This isn't how direct SIP calls normally work. my my
Media5-phone on my Samsung Galaxy, which would sort of be like Bria, you can
just dial the sip address like 200901@login.zipdx.com and it will connect
it directly via the internet, not going through an intermediate server.
There may be a way of doing it that I'm just not seeing.

I have Jitsi client registered to my work Cudatel but the Cudatel does
not allow SIP URI calling (sip:jungle@work.com for example). So Jitsi
supports SIP URI calling, but the cudatel (We'll call it SIP provider)
does not support it and therefore, the calls fail.

I can call 200901@login.zipdx.com from a SIP provider (onsip,
flowroute, etc) that supports calling SIP URIs.

Does this help explain what I originally meant?

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On 10 March 2015 at 13:47, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

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#5

For a registered account, Jitsi always signals outbound calls against the proxy/registrar. One solution is to configure your Asterisk box (the proxy/registrar in your setup) for URI dialing. Another solution would be to create a second SIP account as registrarless per this doc: https://jitsi.org/Documentation/RegistrarlessSIPAccount. On dialing, you’re asked to choose which account to dial from (registrarless for the direct SIP). I’d say the proper way to do it is the former but if you’re just making a SIP call now and again, the latter is a lot quicker and easier.

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From: John Ervin
Organization: Central Florida TeleSource LLC
Reply-To: Jitsi Users
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:47 PM
To: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] SIP Calls

Not sure what you mean, my SIP provider (I run an Asterisk system so I am technically a SIP Provider). ZipDX.com or junctionnetworks.com is probably what you are referring to. But that's sort of saying that each time you want to make a direct call to a SIP URI you have to setup an account with that site first. This isn't how direct SIP calls normally work. my my Media5-phone on my Samsung Galaxy, which would sort of be like Bria, you can just dial the sip address like 200901@login.zipdx.com<mailto:200901@login.zipdx.com> and it will connect it directly via the internet, not going through an intermediate server. There may be a way of doing it that I'm just not seeing.

On 03/05/2015 09:14 PM, jungle Boogie wrote:

Hi John,
On 5 March 2015 at 10:46, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com><mailto:jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like
"sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com"<mailto:sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com> and make a direct SIP Call?

It is possible but your SIP provider will need to support calling via URI.

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John F. Ervin
Central Florida TeleSource LLC
10151 University Blvd #224
Orlando, FL 32817
jfervin@gmail.com<mailto:jfervin@gmail.com>
407-679-6238 x421
http://jervin.com/cft


#6

I think everybody is missing the point. I would like to be able to make a direct sip call from jitsi w/o having to create an account. This is a standard feature of most softphones. My asterisk system is setup so that I can call 200901@login.zipdx.com by dialing 99200901 on my system. but that's a direct call between by asterisk system and zipdx, not between jitsi and zipdx. I understand that I can create another account to make this work, I've done it in the past, but I don't like to do this for a onetime phone call.

I also understand that this seems to be a feature not supported by Jitsi, and that's OK. I don't expect every piece of software to do everything to my liking.

I have used Jitsi on and off for years and have actually asked this question before. It just bugs me.

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On 03/10/2015 07:45 PM, John Lightfoot wrote:

For a registered account, Jitsi always signals outbound calls against the proxy/registrar. One solution is to configure your Asterisk box (the proxy/registrar in your setup) for URI dialing. Another solution would be to create a second SIP account as registrarless per this doc: https://jitsi.org/Documentation/RegistrarlessSIPAccount. On dialing, you’re asked to choose which account to dial from (registrarless for the direct SIP). I’d say the proper way to do it is the former but if you’re just making a SIP call now and again, the latter is a lot quicker and easier.

From: John Ervin
Organization: Central Florida TeleSource LLC
Reply-To: Jitsi Users
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:47 PM
To: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] SIP Calls

Not sure what you mean, my SIP provider (I run an Asterisk system so I am technically a SIP Provider). ZipDX.com or junctionnetworks.com is probably what you are referring to. But that's sort of saying that each time you want to make a direct call to a SIP URI you have to setup an account with that site first. This isn't how direct SIP calls normally work. my my Media5-phone on my Samsung Galaxy, which would sort of be like Bria, you can just dial the sip address like 200901@login.zipdx.com and it will connect it directly via the internet, not going through an intermediate server. There may be a way of doing it that I'm just not seeing.

On 03/05/2015 09:14 PM, jungle Boogie wrote:

Hi John,
On 5 March 2015 at 10:46, John Ervin<jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like
"sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com" and make a direct SIP Call?

It is possible but your SIP provider will need to support calling via URI.

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*/10151 University Blvd #224
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jfervin@gmail.com <mailto:jfervin@gmail.com>
407-679-6238 x421
http://jervin.com/cft/

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#7

John (E), as John (L)'s response to your mail indicated, you can achieve
what you are looking for with a RegistrarLess account. We don't normally
recommend them (or maintain them that much) because this leaves you with no
NAT traversal but they do allow for direct client-to-client calls.

What JB was pointing out is that a decent SIP proxy would allow you to call
other domains. For example, my account on ippi.com allows me to call
sip:someone@iptel.org or sip:someoneelse@zipdx.com, which I actually do
quite often.

This is the recommended way of doing SIP URL calling because proxies like
that at ippi.com will do hosted NAT traversal for you.

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

Emil

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On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com> wrote:

I think everybody is missing the point. I would like to be able to make
a direct sip call from jitsi w/o having to create an account. This is a
standard feature of most softphones. My asterisk system is setup so that I
can call 200901@login.zipdx.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','200901@login.zipdx.com');> by dialing
99200901 on my system. but that's a direct call between by asterisk system
and zipdx, not between jitsi and zipdx. I understand that I can create
another account to make this work, I've done it in the past, but I don't
like to do this for a onetime phone call.

I also understand that this seems to be a feature not supported by Jitsi,
and that's OK. I don't expect every piece of software to do everything to
my liking.

I have used Jitsi on and off for years and have actually asked this
question before. It just bugs me.

On 03/10/2015 07:45 PM, John Lightfoot wrote:

For a registered account, Jitsi always signals outbound calls against
the proxy/registrar. One solution is to configure your Asterisk box (the
proxy/registrar in your setup) for URI dialing. Another solution would be
to create a second SIP account as registrarless per this doc:
https://jitsi.org/Documentation/RegistrarlessSIPAccount. On dialing,
you’re asked to choose which account to dial from (registrarless for the
direct SIP). I’d say the proper way to do it is the former but if you’re
just making a SIP call now and again, the latter is a lot quicker and
easier.

  From: John Ervin
Organization: Central Florida TeleSource LLC
Reply-To: Jitsi Users
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:47 PM
To: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] SIP Calls

Not sure what you mean, my SIP provider (I run an Asterisk system so I
am technically a SIP Provider). ZipDX.com or junctionnetworks.com is
probably what you are referring to. But that's sort of saying that each
time you want to make a direct call to a SIP URI you have to setup an
account with that site first. This isn't how direct SIP calls normally
work. my my Media5-phone on my Samsung Galaxy, which would sort of be like
Bria, you can just dial the sip address like 200901@login.zipdx.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','200901@login.zipdx.com');> and it will
connect it directly via the internet, not going through an intermediate
server. There may be a way of doing it that I'm just not seeing.

On 03/05/2015 09:14 PM, jungle Boogie wrote:

Hi John,
On 5 March 2015 at 10:46, John Ervin <jfervin@gmail.com> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jfervin@gmail.com');> wrote:

Is it not possible to just put a valid sip direct url into Jitsi, like"sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com" <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sip:welcome@junctionnetworks.com');> and make a direct SIP Call?

It is possible but your SIP provider will need to support calling via URI.

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http://jervin.com/cft*

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