[jitsi-users] Paris - mini-DebConf - VoIP - 24 November


#1

For those using Debian/Ubuntu (and anybody else is welcome of course),
there is a mini-DebConf in Paris this weekend:

   http://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/

There is a presentation at 16:00 about Debian's role in establishing an
alternative to Skype, this will look at some of the packages available
on the upcoming Debian 7 (wheezy), and strategic ways of deploying them
to build a genuinely free and open cloud for real-time communications.

There is no registration fee - all welcome


#2

"Daniel Pocock
Debian's role in establishing an alternative to Skype"

Very interesting, but does this mean that they want to start a
completely new project designed to be an alternative to Skype? It seems
we already have this in Jitsi.

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On 11/22/2012 12:05 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

For those using Debian/Ubuntu (and anybody else is welcome of course),
there is a mini-DebConf in Paris this weekend:

   http://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/

There is a presentation at 16:00 about Debian's role in establishing an
alternative to Skype, this will look at some of the packages available
on the upcoming Debian 7 (wheezy), and strategic ways of deploying them
to build a genuinely free and open cloud for real-time communications.

There is no registration fee - all welcome


#3

While im unable to come by im still quite interested in the presentation
Will there be videos uploaded?

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Yannik Völker


#4

"Daniel Pocock
Debian's role in establishing an alternative to Skype"

Very interesting, but does this mean that they want to start a
completely new project designed to be an alternative to Skype? It seems
we already have this in Jitsi.

No, it is more like how to get things working together, e.g. Debian
servers for TURN, Debian workstations running Jitsi, making it work
securely in a federated manner, etc

Notice Jitsi's sister project, turnserver, is on it's way into Debian now:

   http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

and Debian 7 will also do full mutual TLS with Jitsi (using repro or
Kamailio as proxy):

   https://www.resiprocate.org/ReproMutualTLSAuthenticationJitsi

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On 21/11/12 23:11, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

On 11/22/2012 12:05 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

For those using Debian/Ubuntu (and anybody else is welcome of course),
there is a mini-DebConf in Paris this weekend:

   http://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/

There is a presentation at 16:00 about Debian's role in establishing an
alternative to Skype, this will look at some of the packages available
on the upcoming Debian 7 (wheezy), and strategic ways of deploying them
to build a genuinely free and open cloud for real-time communications.

There is no registration fee - all welcome


#5

Wow, ok. Thanks for the clarification, this is
definitely interesting.

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On 11/22/2012 12:19 AM, Daniel Pocock
wrote:

On 21/11/12 23:11, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

"Daniel Pocock
Debian's role in establishing an alternative to Skype"
Very interesting, but does this mean that they want to start a
completely new project designed to be an alternative to Skype? It seems
we already have this in Jitsi.

No, it is more like how to get things working together, e.g. Debian
servers for TURN, Debian workstations running Jitsi, making it work
securely in a federated manner, etc
Notice Jitsi's sister project, turnserver, is on it's way into Debian now:
and Debian 7 will also do full mutual TLS with Jitsi (using repro or
Kamailio as proxy):
On 11/22/2012 12:05 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:



For those using Debian/Ubuntu (and anybody else is welcome of course),
there is a mini-DebConf in Paris this weekend:
There is a presentation at 16:00 about Debian's role in establishing an
alternative to Skype, this will look at some of the packages available
on the upcoming Debian 7 (wheezy), and strategic ways of deploying them
to build a genuinely free and open cloud for real-time communications.
There is no registration fee - all welcome


http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.htmlhttps://www.resiprocate.org/ReproMutualTLSAuthenticationJitsihttp://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/


#6

Hi,

as there was just a post about Jitsi and Debian: Is there a way to
contribute to the process of getting Jitsi fit for inclusion in Debian?

If I am not mistaken, the relevant bugs are
http://java.net/jira/browse/JITSI-997
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627362
and there is no progress obvious to me as an outsider.

I maintain the Debian (and Ubuntu ppa-) packages for a very simple
program, so I have very basic understanding of packaging and Debian
policies. Unfortunately I cannot really code, but I can read code on a
basic level.

If I can be of any assistance in sorting out the library issues to the
satisfaction of the Debian und the Jitsi teams, I would be very glad.
Being able to get Jitsi from the main repository would be huge.

Best,
Benjamin


#7

Hey Benjamin,

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Hi,

as there was just a post about Jitsi and Debian: Is there a way to
contribute to the process of getting Jitsi fit for inclusion in Debian?

It's been a loooot of work but we are on the verge of making our first
submission. Hopefully this week, if not, then next one. From that point
on we'd be happy to have any help addressing issues raised by the debian
community (we've had some help from a DD already so hopefully there
won't be many of those).

If I am not mistaken, the relevant bugs are
http://java.net/jira/browse/JITSI-997

Yes, that's the part that took a while.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627362
and there is no progress obvious to me as an outsider.

That's true. We'll rectify this shortly.

I maintain the Debian (and Ubuntu ppa-) packages for a very simple
program, so I have very basic understanding of packaging and Debian
policies. Unfortunately I cannot really code, but I can read code on a
basic level.

That was the problem. We've had suggestion for help previously but what
we really needed to do is identify all the deps and build a mechanism
for felix to use those that are available on debian. This was tricky but
we now have it. We also needed to contribute back to FFmpeg the patches
that we had (as opposed to just publishing them in our repo) and change
the way we were using it for those that they wouldn't take.

All of this was development work.

If I can be of any assistance in sorting out the library issues to the
satisfaction of the Debian und the Jitsi teams, I would be very glad.
Being able to get Jitsi from the main repository would be huge.

We agree on that and hopefully it will be a fact soon enough :wink:

Cheers,
Emil

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On 22.11.12, 00:00, Benjamin Eltzner wrote:

Best,
Benjamin

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#8

I second your suggestion Benjamin (not that I can code either) but
having Jitsi in the main repository might get it a few step closer to
being included by default in a distro or two down the line (wishful
thinking). That might push it further towards wider adoption.

M

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On 11/22/2012 01:00 AM, Benjamin Eltzner wrote:

Hi,

as there was just a post about Jitsi and Debian: Is there a way to
contribute to the process of getting Jitsi fit for inclusion in Debian?

If I am not mistaken, the relevant bugs are
http://java.net/jira/browse/JITSI-997
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627362
and there is no progress obvious to me as an outsider.

I maintain the Debian (and Ubuntu ppa-) packages for a very simple
program, so I have very basic understanding of packaging and Debian
policies. Unfortunately I cannot really code, but I can read code on a
basic level.

If I can be of any assistance in sorting out the library issues to the
satisfaction of the Debian und the Jitsi teams, I would be very glad.
Being able to get Jitsi from the main repository would be huge.

Best,
Benjamin


#9

Hi Emil,

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On 22.11.2012 00:53, Emil Ivov wrote:

Hey Benjamin,

On 22.11.12, 00:00, Benjamin Eltzner wrote:

Hi,

as there was just a post about Jitsi and Debian: Is there a way
to contribute to the process of getting Jitsi fit for inclusion
in Debian?

It's been a loooot of work but we are on the verge of making our
first submission. Hopefully this week, if not, then next one. From
that point on we'd be happy to have any help addressing issues
raised by the debian community (we've had some help from a DD
already so hopefully there won't be many of those).

This is great news! Thanks for going through all that work. If I can
ever contribute (e.g. by testing versions to be packaged) I'll be happy
to do so. Otherwise I just keep my eyes open for bugs in the
nightlies. :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Benjamin