[jitsi-users] "Just" to get it running?


#1

Hi to all the developers out there,
(excuse my Englisch - I am German)

After all that work you have done and all the hours spent on the project
istn't it time to explain it to those that finally would use it?

  * You need a foundation of a proper software. Hopefully done, well:
    almost.
    Thank you to all of you spending your time to develop something
    urgently needed for the common weal!

  * For organisations where the implementation of such services and
    software is done centralized by admins you also will have already
    enough information adequate to their knowledge. For admins it is
    routine to set up a server.

  * Wherever the use of jitsi-application is driven by end-users that
    are not geeks you unfortunatelly have little.

    Imagine a typical Skype user. In windows he runs something like a
    setup.exe "and follows the instructions". Such user is probably not
    aware that servers might be involved in his final skype-session.
    Maybe he does not even know what a server is.
    Isn't it also in your interest to let explode reputation and
    popularity when an enduser-oriented magazin says: "...similar to
    Skype but keeping your privacy and supporting free software,
    independent from big data collectors...just install, create your
    account, open session, invite friends to video call...installation
    in 5 Minutes straight-forward...installation with or with or central
    server possible..."?

I am such an enduser - just with a bigger capacity to endure and to
struggle through 45%-documentation for installation, repeat
installations a couple of times, inviting friends to test-sessions that
have also a certain suffering ability. As this type of user here my
questions:

1. Do I need somewhere a server to have video-calls with whom-ever?
2. If not, which of your modules is the right one for server-less
    video-call sessions with two or more participants?
3. If so: Are there free servers available where I can have an account
    (that can be created as easy and cheap as an e-mail account)
    suitable for jits-sessions. If so: Where?
4. If not: Can I set a check during my installation that my computer
    during a session might serve as a server? What are the hardware
    requirements for such a server installation (of course all needed
    software is expected to be included in your installation package,
    therefore there are no software requierements at all)
5. When finally opening a session how can be negociated between all
    participants which of them will be the server if both are capable to
    be a server?

Thanks a lot, greetings

Frank


#2

Hi Frank,
just briefly (I am not a developer, just ordinary user) :

1) the server-less solution is "Jitsi-Desktop" where you and your
buddies need an XMPP or SIP account for secure chatting, audio and video
calls one-to-one. Jitsi Desktop also supports audio conferences and
video conferences (up till 3 video participants it should work -
dependent on bandwidth - I tried it only long time ago).
Due to lack of human resources the development/maintenance of Jitsi
Desktop is limited.
latest Jitsi Desktop versions:
Windows: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/jitsi-latest-x86.exe
Mac: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/macosx/jitsi-latest.dmg
Debian Linux: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/debian/

2) anything else (jitsi-meet, videobridge etc) is server-based and - as
you mentioned IMHO correctly - is more (but not exclusively) for geeks
but not for ordinary users like me who want to switch from Skype and are
confronted to setup a server to use jitsi-meet (unless you use the
service from Jitsi team directly: https://meet.jit.si/ )

kind regards, MS

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On 23/03/18 13:21, Frank wrote:

Hi to all the developers out there,
(excuse my Englisch - I am German)

After all that work you have done and all the hours spent on the
project istn't it time to explain it to those that finally would use it?

  * You need a foundation of a proper software. Hopefully done, well:
    almost.
    Thank you to all of you spending your time to develop something
    urgently needed for the common weal!

  * For organisations where the implementation of such services and
    software is done centralized by admins you also will have already
    enough information adequate to their knowledge. For admins it is
    routine to set up a server.

  * Wherever the use of jitsi-application is driven by end-users that
    are not geeks you unfortunatelly have little.

    Imagine a typical Skype user. In windows he runs something like a
    setup.exe "and follows the instructions". Such user is probably
    not aware that servers might be involved in his final
    skype-session. Maybe he does not even know what a server is.
    Isn't it also in your interest to let explode reputation and
    popularity when an enduser-oriented magazin says: "...similar to
    Skype but keeping your privacy and supporting free software,
    independent from big data collectors...just install, create your
    account, open session, invite friends to video call...installation
    in 5 Minutes straight-forward...installation with or with or
    central server possible..."?

I am such an enduser - just with a bigger capacity to endure and to
struggle through 45%-documentation for installation, repeat
installations a couple of times, inviting friends to test-sessions
that have also a certain suffering ability. As this type of user here
my questions:

1. Do I need somewhere a server to have video-calls with whom-ever?
2. If not, which of your modules is the right one for server-less
    video-call sessions with two or more participants?
3. If so: Are there free servers available where I can have an
    account (that can be created as easy and cheap as an e-mail
    account) suitable for jits-sessions. If so: Where?
4. If not: Can I set a check during my installation that my computer
    during a session might serve as a server? What are the hardware
    requirements for such a server installation (of course all needed
    software is expected to be included in your installation package,
    therefore there are no software requierements at all)
5. When finally opening a session how can be negociated between all
    participants which of them will be the server if both are capable
    to be a server?

Thanks a lot, greetings

Frank

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#3

Hi,

Hi Frank,
just briefly (I am not a developer, just ordinary user) :

1) the server-less solution is "Jitsi-Desktop" where you and your buddies need an XMPP or SIP account for secure chatting, audio and video calls one-to-one. Jitsi Desktop also supports audio conferences and video conferences (up till 3 video participants it should work - dependent on bandwidth - I tried it only long time ago).
Due to lack of human resources the development/maintenance of Jitsi Desktop is limited.
latest Jitsi Desktop versions:
Windows: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/jitsi-latest-x86.exe
Mac: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/macosx/jitsi-latest.dmg
Debian Linux: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/debian/

2) anything else (jitsi-meet, videobridge etc) is server-based and - as you mentioned IMHO correctly - is more (but not exclusively) for geeks but not for ordinary users like me who want to switch from Skype and are confronted to setup a server to use jitsi-meet (unless you use the service from Jitsi team directly: https://meet.jit.si/ )

Let me just re-iterate that last point, because I think it deserves emphasis. Jitsi Meet is absolutely suited for use by end-users, and you can use our public deployment by pointing your browser to https://meet.jit.si, clicking "GO" and sharing the URL with your friends by other means (e.g. email, calendar invite, existing chat apps). It doesn't require any installation -- just open the link in your browser.

The part which is not suited for non-technical users is deploying your own server (why would an end-user want to do this anyway?).

Regards,
Boris

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On 23/03/2018 09:08, Mr.Smith wrote: