[jitsi-users] Does jitsi provide sidetone?


#1

Emil,
    Thanks for the prompt reply.

    I'm not sure what devices you are referring to. I'd imagine that most folks using jitsi would either be using them hands free (using a mic like you recommend and computer speakers) in the privacy of their homes or with an analog or usb headset in more public places. In my case I'm using a headset that looks like the one in the following link.

http://telecommander.com/pics/links/audio/labtecc370headset/labtecc370headset.htm

I would be really surprised if any of the common consumer grade computer headsets have incorporated integrated sidetone, but I'd like a link to a set if you have one. I would suggest that jitsi could use a sidetone feature to provide a more professional user experience.

You may want to have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone for some more info on sidetone. The site seems to be rather out of date but there are some nuggets of insight there.

Regards,
John

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On 01/31/2014 05:32 AM, users-request@jitsi.org wrote:

Message: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 01:47:47 +0100 From: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> To: Jitsi Users <users@jitsi.org> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Does jitsi provide sidetone? Message-ID: <CAPvvaaJ2N1s1jiVDktHPD2AfvCKqDFcFJNY+LkZV-Wjq8+YenA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey John, Jitsi does not do this as it is most often left to devices: Here's one great example that I highly recommend: http://bluemic.com/yeti/ Emil On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:57 PM, John R. Moseby <john.moseby@genband.com> wrote:

>I've started using jitsi with a pair of nice full cup headphones to cut down
>on the office background noise. Currently I don't hear any sidetone in this
>arrangement and I haven't found any mention of it on the web site. I am
>looking for a way to turn it on or adjust the volume. Does jitsi provide
>sidetone?
>
>For those that don't know what sidetone is..... It is customary in phones
>to route a portion of the mic input back to the ear piece so that a person
>talking can hear themselves. By adjusting the level that the person hears
>the telephone engineers can modify how loud the talker speaks. In a old
>analog phone sidetone level is tied to loop current, so that folks on long
>loops talk louder to overcome the wire loss!
>
>I don't hear myself currently and I find it distracting, not to mention that
>I am probably talking too loud which adds to the amount of office hubbub.
>
>Thanks,
>John
>


#2

Emil,
   Thanks for the prompt reply.

   I'm not sure what devices you are referring to. I'd imagine that most
folks using jitsi would either be using them hands free (using a mic like
you recommend and computer speakers) in the privacy of their homes or with
an analog or usb headset in more public places. In my case I'm using a
headset that looks like the one in the following link.

http://telecommander.com/pics/links/audio/labtecc370headset/labtecc370headset.htm

I would be really surprised if any of the common consumer grade computer
headsets have incorporated integrated sidetone, b.ut I'd like a link to a set
if you have one.

The one I sent in my previous mail does exactly this. Here it is again:

http://bluemic.com/yeti/

The Yeti microphone appears as an audio device supporting both input
and output and it also generates sidetone.

I would suggest that jitsi could use a sidetone feature to
provide a more professional user experience.

Priorities aside, this is not something that Jitsi could necessarily
tackle as the latency of the associated sidetone has to be really very
low. Jitsi generally captures packets by chunks of 20ms so we have at
least that as latency and potentially at least that much more (or up
to 100ms) from the OS.

This is why I suggested that if sidetone is important to you, you may
want to consider getting a Yeti microphone or another similar device
that generates at a lower layer.

Hope this helps,
Emil

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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:57 PM, John R. Moseby <john.moseby@genband.com> wrote:

You may want to have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone for
some more info on sidetone. The site seems to be rather out of date but
there are some nuggets of insight there.

Regards,
John

On 01/31/2014 05:32 AM, users-request@jitsi.org wrote:

Message: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 01:47:47 +0100 From: Emil Ivov
<emcho@jitsi.org> To: Jitsi Users <users@jitsi.org> Subject: Re:
[jitsi-users] Does jitsi provide sidetone? Message-ID:
<CAPvvaaJ2N1s1jiVDktHPD2AfvCKqDFcFJNY+LkZV-Wjq8+YenA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey John, Jitsi does not do
this as it is most often left to devices: Here's one great example that I
highly recommend: http://bluemic.com/yeti/ Emil On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at
10:57 PM, John R. Moseby <john.moseby@genband.com> wrote:

>I've started using jitsi with a pair of nice full cup headphones to cut
> down
>on the office background noise. Currently I don't hear any sidetone in
> this
>arrangement and I haven't found any mention of it on the web site. I am
>looking for a way to turn it on or adjust the volume. Does jitsi
> provide
>sidetone?
>
>For those that don't know what sidetone is..... It is customary in
> phones
>to route a portion of the mic input back to the ear piece so that a
> person
>talking can hear themselves. By adjusting the level that the person
> hears
>the telephone engineers can modify how loud the talker speaks. In a old
>analog phone sidetone level is tied to loop current, so that folks on
> long
>loops talk louder to overcome the wire loss!
>
>I don't hear myself currently and I find it distracting, not to mention
> that
>I am probably talking too loud which adds to the amount of office
> hubbub.
>
>Thanks,
>John
>

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