[jitsi-users] DebConf and Jitsi in the press


#1

http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Debconf-13-Debianer-diskutieren-ueber-Echtzeit-Kommunikation


#2

Using SIP on Jitsi works well to call phone numbers.

However, when I use an SIP service on Jitsi to dial a business phone in
which an automatic answer instructs me to press 1, 2 or 3, etc., to
indicate my options, I press the number on the on-screen dialpad that is
one of the options on the Jitsi answer window, or I use my keyboard, and
neither one registers with the other party so I cannot complete the
call. Am I missing something or how do I do it?

Thank you

Pablo


#3

There are configuration options in how to handle DTMF tones. You will need to look at your server (or service) to find out what they need. You may need support at their end.

      Lee

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On 08/07/2013 05:09 PM, Carola y Pablo wrote:

Using SIP on Jitsi works well to call phone numbers.

However, when I use an SIP service on Jitsi to dial a business phone in
which an automatic answer instructs me to press 1, 2 or 3, etc., to
indicate my options, I press the number on the on-screen dialpad that is
one of the options on the Jitsi answer window, or I use my keyboard, and
neither one registers with the other party so I cannot complete the
call. Am I missing something or how do I do it?


#4

What you want is DTMF emulation, ie, for Jitsi to emulate the
keypresses on a regular analog phone. I don't know if it does that or
how to configure it. Emil surely knows.

Or perhaps there is a SIP parameter to send keypresses as "virtual"
DTMF tones over SIP for the SIP server to translate... it'd be
interested to see if the SIP server you're using implements that.

FC

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> wrote:

However, when I use an SIP service on Jitsi to dial a business phone in
which an automatic answer instructs me to press 1, 2 or 3, etc., to
indicate my options, I press the number on the on-screen dialpad that is
one of the options on the Jitsi answer window, or I use my keyboard, and
neither one registers with the other party so I cannot complete the
call. Am I missing something or how do I do it?

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell


#5

This provides more info (I'm reading as I write this...)

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+DTMF+Signalling

FC

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@gmail.com> wrote:

What you want is DTMF emulation, ie, for Jitsi to emulate the
keypresses on a regular analog phone. I don't know if it does that or
how to configure it. Emil surely knows.

Or perhaps there is a SIP parameter to send keypresses as "virtual"
DTMF tones over SIP for the SIP server to translate... it'd be
interested to see if the SIP server you're using implements that.

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell


#6

Or maybe Jitsi could fall back to DTMF tones (sounds) inband on the
audio channel?

FC

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Lee Sharp <leesharp@hal-pc.org> wrote:

You may need support at their end.

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell


#7

If all fails:

DTMF tone generator Java applet
http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/courses/cse100/04au/misc/tones/dtmf.html

Flash version
http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/dtmf.html
:slight_smile:

FC

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@gmail.com> wrote:

Or maybe Jitsi could fall back to DTMF tones (sounds) inband on the
audio channel?

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell


#8

Thank you for your help.

Following your suggestion, I first used the
DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
it worked--with both options.

Again, thank you

Pablo

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El mié, 07-08-2013 a las 18:32 -0400, Fernando Cassia escribió:

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or maybe Jitsi could fall back to DTMF tones (sounds) inband on the
> audio channel?

If all fails:

DTMF tone generator Java applet
http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/courses/cse100/04au/misc/tones/dtmf.html

Flash version
http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/dtmf.html
:slight_smile:

FC


#9

You're welcome. Still, it would be great if Jitsi had an option to
send DTMF tones to the audio channel directly. Perhaps with a small
button (led style) toggle at the bottom of the dial pad labeled "send
DTMF TONES".?

Just a suggestion for Emil et al...

FC

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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> wrote:

Following your suggestion, I first used the
DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
it worked--with both options.

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell


#10

In the account settings, under "Connection" there is an option to set
the DTMF method.

Regards,
Boris

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On 8/11/13 5:41 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> wrote:

Following your suggestion, I first used the
DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
it worked--with both options.

You're welcome. Still, it would be great if Jitsi had an option to
send DTMF tones to the audio channel directly. Perhaps with a small
button (led style) toggle at the bottom of the dial pad labeled "send
DTMF TONES".?


#11

Hey folks,

Jitsi does support this in three different ways. SIP INFO, RTP 2833/4733,
and inband.

We try to detect automatically the one that you server supports but you
could also set them manually in the account settings

Emil

--sent from my mobile

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On Aug 11, 2013 4:41 PM, "Fernando Cassia" <fcassia@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> > wrote:
> Following your suggestion, I first used the
> DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
> put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
> it worked--with both options.

You're welcome. Still, it would be great if Jitsi had an option to
send DTMF tones to the audio channel directly. Perhaps with a small
button (led style) toggle at the bottom of the dial pad labeled "send
DTMF TONES".?

Just a suggestion for Emil et al...

FC
--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

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#12

This is similar to a thread I raised last month ("DTMF tones distortion?"). I got a response that helped, regarding "DTMF method" in the Connection setting. I found that changing it to "SIP INFO" improved things a lot, and the receiving teleconference system started understanding my keypresses a lot better than the default setting of "Auto".

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-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces@jitsi.org [mailto:users-bounces@jitsi.org] On Behalf Of Boris Grozev
Sent: 12 August 2013 08:49
To: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] dialpad options

On 8/11/13 5:41 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> wrote:

Following your suggestion, I first used the
DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
it worked--with both options.

You're welcome. Still, it would be great if Jitsi had an option to
send DTMF tones to the audio channel directly. Perhaps with a small
button (led style) toggle at the bottom of the dial pad labeled "send
DTMF TONES".?

In the account settings, under "Connection" there is an option to set
the DTMF method.

Regards,
Boris

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#13

This suggestion (changing it to "SIP INFO") has worked excellently.
Thank you very much.
Pablo

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El lun, 12-08-2013 a las 11:35 +0100, Mark Jenkinson escribió:

This is similar to a thread I raised last month ("DTMF tones distortion?"). I got a response that helped, regarding "DTMF method" in the Connection setting. I found that changing it to "SIP INFO" improved things a lot, and the receiving teleconference system started understanding my keypresses a lot better than the default setting of "Auto".

-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces@jitsi.org [mailto:users-bounces@jitsi.org] On Behalf Of Boris Grozev
Sent: 12 August 2013 08:49
To: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] dialpad options

On 8/11/13 5:41 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Carola y Pablo <stuckybyler2@yahoo.es> wrote:
>> Following your suggestion, I first used the
>> DTMF tone generator Java applet and then I used the Jitsi dialpad. I
>> put the computer microphone up to the speaker to pick up the tones, and
>> it worked--with both options.
>
> You're welcome. Still, it would be great if Jitsi had an option to
> send DTMF tones to the audio channel directly. Perhaps with a small
> button (led style) toggle at the bottom of the dial pad labeled "send
> DTMF TONES".?

In the account settings, under "Connection" there is an option to set
the DTMF method.

Regards,
Boris

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