[jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi


#1

We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut down at the end of each day.

The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's power button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as Windows waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't do. We are having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray icon, before the machines will shut down.

Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having to manually intervene?

Stephen

···

==============================================================================
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services
Military Air & Information
BAE Systems
Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com<mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

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#2

Hey Stephen,

We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut down
at the end of each day.

The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC’s power
button, if it wasn’t for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as Windows
waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don’t do. We are
having to manually select “Quit” from the system tray icon, before the
machines will shut down.

Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be exited
cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having to
manually intervene?

Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the latest version?

Emil

···

On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:

Stephen

==============================================================================

Stephen Moll

Senior Systems Engineer

Defence Information, Training & Services

Military Air & Information

BAE Systems

Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400

GNet: 659 5400

Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited

Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.

Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

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#3

It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3 nightly from 23rd August.
32-bit versions running on Windows XP.

Which version do you think the problem was fixed.

How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?

···

==============================================================================
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services
Military Air & Information
BAE Systems
Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789
Mobex: 79789
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
To: Jitsi Users
Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi

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Hey Stephen,

On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
> We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut
> down at the end of each day.
>
> The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's power
> button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as Windows
> waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't do. We are
> having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray icon, before the
> machines will shut down.
>
> Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
> exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having
> to manually intervene?

Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the latest
version?

Emil
>
> Stephen
>
>

======
> ========
>
> Stephen Moll
>
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
> Defence Information, Training & Services
>
> Military Air & Information
>
> BAE Systems
>
> Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
>
> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
>
> GNet: 659 5400
>
> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
> <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
>
> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
>
> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
> Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
>
> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>
>
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#4

It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3 nightly from 23rd August.
32-bit versions running on Windows XP.

Which version do you think the problem was fixed.

Both of the above. If neither of them is working then it must be something specific to XP in general or your own installation.

Are other XP users seeing the same issue?

How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?

Through GitHub: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi

Emil

···

On 30.08.13, 16:52, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:

==============================================================================
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services
Military Air & Information
BAE Systems
Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789
Mobex: 79789
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
To: Jitsi Users
Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi

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Hey Stephen,

On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:

We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut
down at the end of each day.

The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's power
button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as Windows
waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't do. We are
having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray icon, before the
machines will shut down.

Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having
to manually intervene?

Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the latest
version?

Emil

Stephen

================================================================

========

Stephen Moll

Senior Systems Engineer

Defence Information, Training & Services

Military Air & Information

BAE Systems

Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400

GNet: 659 5400

Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
<mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited

Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.

Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

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#5

I am not at work at the moment, so can't check until Monday, but every Windows XP machine I have tried is the same. I have only been able to shut a machine down by manually quitting Jitsi from the system tray. I was wondering if there was a particular setting that needs to be made for it to quit properly.

···

==============================================================================
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services
Military Air & Information
BAE Systems
Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
Sent: 30 August 2013 17:00
To: Moll, Stephen (UK)
Cc: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi

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outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet.
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On 30.08.13, 16:52, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
> It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3 nightly from 23rd
August.
> 32-bit versions running on Windows XP.
>
> Which version do you think the problem was fixed.

Both of the above. If neither of them is working then it must be something
specific to XP in general or your own installation.

Are other XP users seeing the same issue?

> How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?

Through GitHub: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi

Emil

>
>

======
> ========
> Stephen Moll
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Defence Information, Training & Services Military Air & Information
> BAE Systems Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3
> 4LH
>
> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
> GNet: 659 5400
> Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789
> Mobex: 79789
> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
>
> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited Registered Office:
> Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough,
Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
>> Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
>> To: Jitsi Users
>> Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
>> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi
>>
>> ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message
>> originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or
from the internet.
>> Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
>> Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
>> instructions on reporting suspicious email messages.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hey Stephen,
>>
>> On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
>>> We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut
>>> down at the end of each day.
>>>
>>> The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's
>>> power button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as
>>> Windows waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't
>>> do. We are having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray
>>> icon, before the machines will shut down.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
>>> exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having
>>> to manually intervene?
>>
>> Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the
>> latest version?
>>
>> Emil
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>

>> ======
>>> ========
>>>
>>> Stephen Moll
>>>
>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> Defence Information, Training & Services
>>>
>>> Military Air & Information
>>>
>>> BAE Systems
>>>
>>> Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
>>>
>>> GNet: 659 5400
>>>
>>> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
>>> <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
>>>
>>> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
>>> Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
>>>
>>> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>> recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
>>> recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.
>>> You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or
>>> distribute its contents to any other person.
>>>
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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#6

now that is interesting... That a company, that is living on UK
government supply orders is looking for some safe (and free)
communication system... Do you fear to be overheard by your own secret
services.....? Or are you attempting to crack the encryption of the
talks in order to spy on the rest of the free world too?

Sorry for being sarcastic, but after what the files from Edward Snowden
have disclosed, any organisation that is linked to the UK government
doesn't deserve any better...

I hope your influence reaches far enough, that you can forward this
complaint to the according offices...

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···

Am 30.08.2013 20:16, schrieb Moll, Stephen (UK):

I am not at work at the moment, so can't check until Monday, but every Windows XP machine I have tried is the same. I have only been able to shut a machine down by manually quitting Jitsi from the system tray. I was wondering if there was a particular setting that needs to be made for it to quit properly.

==============================================================================
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services
Military Air & Information
BAE Systems
Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
Sent: 30 August 2013 17:00
To: Moll, Stephen (UK)
Cc: Jitsi Users
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi

----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message originates from
outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet.
Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
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--------------------------------------------------------

On 30.08.13, 16:52, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:

It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3 nightly from 23rd

August.

32-bit versions running on Windows XP.

Which version do you think the problem was fixed.

Both of the above. If neither of them is working then it must be something
specific to XP in general or your own installation.

Are other XP users seeing the same issue?

How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?

Through GitHub: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi

Emil

================================================================

========
Stephen Moll
Senior Systems Engineer
Defence Information, Training & Services Military Air & Information
BAE Systems Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3
4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
GNet: 659 5400
Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789
Mobex: 79789
Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited Registered Office:
Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough,

Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.

Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
To: Jitsi Users
Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi

----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message
originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or

from the internet.

Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
instructions on reporting suspicious email messages.
--------------------------------------------------------

Hey Stephen,

On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:

We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut
down at the end of each day.

The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's
power button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as
Windows waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't
do. We are having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray
icon, before the machines will shut down.

Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having
to manually intervene?

Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the
latest version?

Emil

Stephen

================================================================

======

========

Stephen Moll

Senior Systems Engineer

Defence Information, Training & Services

Military Air & Information

BAE Systems

Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH

Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400

GNet: 659 5400

Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
<mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>

BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited

Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.

Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325

****************************************************************

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#7

That's not very appropriate.

Let's keep the spite out. Jitsi is for everyone.

--sent from my mobile

···

On 30 Aug 2013 22:22, "Hypnomaster Yahoo" <hypno_master2002@yahoo.de> wrote:

now that is interesting... That a company, that is living on UK
government supply orders is looking for some safe (and free)
communication system... Do you fear to be overheard by your own secret
services.....? Or are you attempting to crack the encryption of the
talks in order to spy on the rest of the free world too?

Sorry for being sarcastic, but after what the files from Edward Snowden
have disclosed, any organisation that is linked to the UK government
doesn't deserve any better...

I hope your influence reaches far enough, that you can forward this
complaint to the according offices...

Am 30.08.2013 20:16, schrieb Moll, Stephen (UK):
> I am not at work at the moment, so can't check until Monday, but every
Windows XP machine I have tried is the same. I have only been able to shut
a machine down by manually quitting Jitsi from the system tray. I was
wondering if there was a particular setting that needs to be made for it to
quit properly.
>
>

> Stephen Moll
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Defence Information, Training & Services
> Military Air & Information
> BAE Systems
> Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
>
> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
> GNet: 659 5400
> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
>
> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
>> Sent: 30 August 2013 17:00
>> To: Moll, Stephen (UK)
>> Cc: Jitsi Users
>> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi
>>
>> ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message
originates from
>> outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the
internet.
>> Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
>> Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
instructions on
>> reporting suspicious email messages.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On 30.08.13, 16:52, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
>>> It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3 nightly from
23rd
>> August.
>>> 32-bit versions running on Windows XP.
>>>
>>> Which version do you think the problem was fixed.
>> Both of the above. If neither of them is working then it must be
something
>> specific to XP in general or your own installation.
>>
>> Are other XP users seeing the same issue?
>>
>>> How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?
>> Through GitHub: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi
>>
>> Emil
>>
>>>
>> ================================================================
>> ======
>>> ========
>>> Stephen Moll
>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>> Defence Information, Training & Services Military Air & Information
>>> BAE Systems Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3
>>> 4LH
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
>>> GNet: 659 5400
>>> Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789
>>> Mobex: 79789
>>> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
>>>
>>> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited Registered Office:
>>> Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough,
>> Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
>>> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org]
>>>> Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
>>>> To: Jitsi Users
>>>> Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
>>>> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message
>>>> originates from outside our organisation, either from an external
partner or
>> from the internet.
>>>> Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
>>>> Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
>>>> instructions on reporting suspicious email messages.
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Hey Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
>>>>> We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must be shut
>>>>> down at the end of each day.
>>>>>
>>>>> The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's
>>>>> power button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process hangs as
>>>>> Windows waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they don't
>>>>> do. We are having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray
>>>>> icon, before the machines will shut down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
>>>>> exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence without having
>>>>> to manually intervene?
>>>> Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you using the
>>>> latest version?
>>>>
>>>> Emil
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ================================================================
>>>> ======
>>>>> ========
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Moll
>>>>>
>>>>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> Defence Information, Training & Services
>>>>>
>>>>> Military Air & Information
>>>>>
>>>>> BAE Systems
>>>>>
>>>>> Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
>>>>>
>>>>> GNet: 659 5400
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
>>>>> <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
>>>>>
>>>>> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace
>>>>> Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
>>>>>
>>>>> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ****************************************************************
>>>> ****
>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended
>>>>> recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
>>>>> recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.
>>>>> You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or
>>>>> distribute its contents to any other person.
>>>>>
>> ****************************************************************
>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> users mailing list
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I do agree, that it is for everyone, but don't blame me if the UK secret
service and in the aftermath the NSA as well is able to overhear the
talks on Jitsi as well as they are said to be able to overhear the talks
on the other messenger systems like standard yahoo messenger, Skype or
google talk.... I use Jitsi because of it's encryption for webcam and
voice talks, and I wouldn't like to see this last outpost of privacy
being gone. That a company being that highly linked to organisations,
that seemingly have no respect to the privacy of innocent people like
the UK secret service, is using Jitsi, causes quite some concern with
me. I really do appreciate the work you put into Jitsi and it's
development, and even more so, that you keep it being a freeware to use.
I just hope, that all your efforts aren't in vain and made being useless
because "the enemy" got it in hand and messes around with it.

Which raises yet another question with me: are there any plans to try to
incorporate a PGP-like encryption function to Jitsi as well? I admit
that using encryption keys of up to 3 kilobyte key length on an highly
intense traffic like webcam talking requires a lot of computing
capacity, yet at least this double key method is stil the safest I'm
aware of so far. Some french people have done that for yahoo text chat
(www.secway.com for download....), but they've stopped the development
and sale of the full version, and it doesn't work for the webcam talks.
The very ideal would be, if you could get the PGP or it's GNU-version
(www.gnupg.org) to work with Jitsi, using their key system, so that one
needn't run two key systems on a computer.

I agree, that using spite here is not appropriate, and I appologise for
it. Blame it to my German origin, that when I read BAE- ... Information
Systems my alarm bells started to shriek.... Sorry... this is spite
again, but I can't help it.... :stuck_out_tongue:

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Am 30.08.2013 22:28, schrieb Emil Ivov:

That's not very appropriate.

Let's keep the spite out. Jitsi is for everyone.

--sent from my mobile

On 30 Aug 2013 22:22, "Hypnomaster Yahoo" <hypno_master2002@yahoo.de > <mailto:hypno_master2002@yahoo.de>> wrote:

    now that is interesting... That a company, that is living on UK
    government supply orders is looking for some safe (and free)
    communication system... Do you fear to be overheard by your own secret
    services.....? Or are you attempting to crack the encryption of the
    talks in order to spy on the rest of the free world too?

    Sorry for being sarcastic, but after what the files from Edward
    Snowden
    have disclosed, any organisation that is linked to the UK government
    doesn't deserve any better...

    I hope your influence reaches far enough, that you can forward this
    complaint to the according offices...

    Am 30.08.2013 20:16, schrieb Moll, Stephen (UK):
    > I am not at work at the moment, so can't check until Monday, but
    every Windows XP machine I have tried is the same. I have only
    been able to shut a machine down by manually quitting Jitsi from
    the system tray. I was wondering if there was a particular setting
    that needs to be made for it to quit properly.
    >
    >
    ==============================================================================
    > Stephen Moll
    > Senior Systems Engineer
    > Defence Information, Training & Services
    > Military Air & Information
    > BAE Systems
    > Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
    >
    > Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400 <tel:%2B44%20%280%2920%208329%205400>
    > GNet: 659 5400
    > Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
    <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
    >
    > BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
    > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough
    Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
    > Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org <mailto:emcho@jitsi.org>]
    >> Sent: 30 August 2013 17:00
    >> To: Moll, Stephen (UK)
    >> Cc: Jitsi Users
    >> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi
    >>
    >> ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This
    message originates from
    >> outside our organisation, either from an external partner or
    from the internet.
    >> Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
    >> Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
    instructions on
    >> reporting suspicious email messages.
    >> --------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>
    >> On 30.08.13, 16:52, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
    >>> It would appear to be the same situation for 2.2 and 2.3
    nightly from 23rd
    >> August.
    >>> 32-bit versions running on Windows XP.
    >>>
    >>> Which version do you think the problem was fixed.
    >> Both of the above. If neither of them is working then it must
    be something
    >> specific to XP in general or your own installation.
    >>
    >> Are other XP users seeing the same issue?
    >>
    >>> How to I view revision histories of Jitsi by the way?
    >> Through GitHub: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi
    >>
    >> Emil
    >>
    >>>
    >> ================================================================
    >> ======
    >>> ========
    >>> Stephen Moll
    >>> Senior Systems Engineer
    >>> Defence Information, Training & Services Military Air &
    Information
    >>> BAE Systems Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey,
    U.K., KT3
    >>> 4LH
    >>>
    >>> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400 <tel:%2B44%20%280%2920%208329%205400>
    >>> GNet: 659 5400
    >>> Mobile: +44 (0)7525 079789 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297525%20079789>
    >>> Mobex: 79789
    >>> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
    <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
    >>>
    >>> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited Registered
    Office:
    >>> Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre,
    Farnborough,
    >> Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
    >>> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: Emil Ivov [mailto:emcho@jitsi.org <mailto:emcho@jitsi.org>]
    >>>> Sent: 30 August 2013 13:55
    >>>> To: Jitsi Users
    >>>> Cc: Moll, Stephen (UK)
    >>>> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] Clean exit of Jitsi
    >>>>
    >>>> ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This
    message
    >>>> originates from outside our organisation, either from an
    external partner or
    >> from the internet.
    >>>> Keep this in mind if you answer this message.
    >>>> Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for
    >>>> instructions on reporting suspicious email messages.
    >>>> --------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>
    >>>> Hey Stephen,
    >>>>
    >>>> On 30.08.13, 13:10, Moll, Stephen (UK) wrote:
    >>>>> We have Jitsi running under Windows XP on systems that must
    be shut
    >>>>> down at the end of each day.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The PCs would shut down cleanly and easily by pressing the PC's
    >>>>> power button, if it wasn't for Jitsi. The shutdown process
    hangs as
    >>>>> Windows waits for the Jitsi processes to finish, which they
    don't
    >>>>> do. We are having to manually select "Quit" from the system tray
    >>>>> icon, before the machines will shut down.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Am I missing something in the setup that would allow Jitsi to be
    >>>>> exited cleanly by the normal system shutdown sequence
    without having
    >>>>> to manually intervene?
    >>>> Similar problems were fixed quite some time ago. Are you
    using the
    >>>> latest version?
    >>>>
    >>>> Emil
    >>>>> Stephen
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >> ================================================================
    >>>> ======
    >>>>> ========
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Stephen Moll
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Senior Systems Engineer
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Defence Information, Training & Services
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Military Air & Information
    >>>>>
    >>>>> BAE Systems
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Apex Tower, 7 High Street, New Malden, Surrey, U.K., KT3 4LH
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Tel: +44 (0)20 8329 5400
    >>>>>
    >>>>> GNet: 659 5400
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Email: stephen.moll@baesystems.com
    <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>
    >>>>> <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com
    <mailto:stephen.moll@baesystems.com>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies Limited
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough
    Aerospace
    >>>>> Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, U.K.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Registered in England & Wales No: 3456325
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >> ****************************************************************
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    >>>>> recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the
    intended
    >>>>> recipient please delete it from your system and notify the
    sender.
    >>>>> You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or
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