Jitsi Download Page


#1

Hi There,

I've been keeping up to date with Jitsi developments, desperate to unhook
everyone from Skype, but am dismayed at state of the download page,
especially as lots of thought has obviously gone into the rest of the site.

A crucial aspect VOIP type applications is that individual deployment only
makes sense if others can join the party. i.e. to get anywhere Jitsi has to
be Grandad proof, the thing that has made skype what it is, right?

How can it possibly make sense to follow this
page<http://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/Download>,
with it's relatively clean, simple, logical lay out with this ftp like
lis<http://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/>t?
If a visitor is wanting the stable build line then they just want that .exe
.deb. dmg or whatever, not a list including nightly builds! You're making
it impossible for me to tell everyone "right, we're not using skype
anymore, we're using jitsi instead" And I long for that day! If I want the
stable build line, why doesn't the link from the 'first' downloads page
automatically start the download. A simple out of the way link to the ftp
list would be fine for anyone wanting that, they're the people who know how
to use this technology, right?

Please guys, you're potentially onto a winner here, with lots of people
ready to tell friends and family to adopt something new, but you're
needlessly making it hard, by not putting some simple thought into basic
usability.

Best Wishes,
Phil Chapman


#2

Just rechecked the page one is taken to after clicking on the download
links under the heading '*stable build line*' as opposed to the title '*nightly
builds'* and noticed that all available downloads include the word
'nightly' in the title.

I'm getting bad cognitive dissonance here guys, help me out!

Phil

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On 19 January 2012 14:14, Philip Chapman <pgchapman@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi There,

I've been keeping up to date with Jitsi developments, desperate to unhook
everyone from Skype, but am dismayed at state of the download page,
especially as lots of thought has obviously gone into the rest of the site.

A crucial aspect VOIP type applications is that individual deployment only
makes sense if others can join the party. i.e. to get anywhere Jitsi has to
be Grandad proof, the thing that has made skype what it is, right?

How can it possibly make sense to follow this page<http://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/Download>,
with it's relatively clean, simple, logical lay out with this ftp like lis<http://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/>t?
If a visitor is wanting the stable build line then they just want that .exe
.deb. dmg or whatever, not a list including nightly builds! You're making
it impossible for me to tell everyone "right, we're not using skype
anymore, we're using jitsi instead" And I long for that day! If I want the
stable build line, why doesn't the link from the 'first' downloads page
automatically start the download. A simple out of the way link to the ftp
list would be fine for anyone wanting that, they're the people who know how
to use this technology, right?

Please guys, you're potentially onto a winner here, with lots of people
ready to tell friends and family to adopt something new, but you're
needlessly making it hard, by not putting some simple thought into basic
usability.

Best Wishes,
Phil Chapman


#3

Hey,

Is it better now?

Emil

···

On 19.01.12 15:14, Philip Chapman wrote:

Hi There,

I've been keeping up to date with Jitsi developments, desperate to
unhook everyone from Skype, but am dismayed at state of the download
page, especially as lots of thought has obviously gone into the rest of
the site.

A crucial aspect VOIP type applications is that individual deployment
only makes sense if others can join the party. i.e. to get anywhere
Jitsi has to be Grandad proof, the thing that has made skype what it is,
right?

How can it possibly make sense to follow this page
<http://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/Download>, with it's relatively clean,
simple, logical lay out with this ftp like lis
<http://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/>t? If a visitor is wanting the
stable build line then they just want that .exe .deb. dmg or whatever,
not a list including nightly builds! You're making it impossible for me
to tell everyone "right, we're not using skype anymore, we're using
jitsi instead" And I long for that day! If I want the stable build line,
why doesn't the link from the 'first' downloads page automatically start
the download. A simple out of the way link to the ftp list would be fine
for anyone wanting that, they're the people who know how to use this
technology, right?

Please guys, you're potentially onto a winner here, with lots of people
ready to tell friends and family to adopt something new, but you're
needlessly making it hard, by not putting some simple thought into basic
usability.

Best Wishes,
Phil Chapman

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31


#4

Hey again,

Just rechecked the page one is taken to after clicking on the download
links under the heading '*stable build line*' as opposed to the title
'*nightly builds'* and noticed that all available downloads include the
word 'nightly' in the title.

I'm getting bad cognitive dissonance here guys, help me out!

Currently, our stable builds are just nightlies that were deemed stable
enough. This why they share the naming. My guess is that regular
"grandpa" users wouldn't really understand/care about exactly what this
means and that it may have a stability application.

Of course one day, we'd have to switch to more complete build versioning
but we are not there yet.

Cheers,
Emil

···

On 19.01.12 15:21, Philip Chapman wrote:

Phil

On 19 January 2012 14:14, Philip Chapman <pgchapman@gmail.com > <mailto:pgchapman@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi There,

    I've been keeping up to date with Jitsi developments, desperate to
    unhook everyone from Skype, but am dismayed at state of the download
    page, especially as lots of thought has obviously gone into the rest
    of the site.

    A crucial aspect VOIP type applications is that individual
    deployment only makes sense if others can join the party. i.e. to
    get anywhere Jitsi has to be Grandad proof, the thing that has made
    skype what it is, right?

    How can it possibly make sense to follow this page
    <http://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/Download>, with
    it's relatively clean, simple, logical lay out with this ftp like
    lis <http://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/windows/>t? If a visitor is
    wanting the stable build line then they just want that .exe .deb.
    dmg or whatever, not a list including nightly builds! You're making
    it impossible for me to tell everyone "right, we're not using skype
    anymore, we're using jitsi instead" And I long for that day! If I
    want the stable build line, why doesn't the link from the 'first'
    downloads page automatically start the download. A simple out of the
    way link to the ftp list would be fine for anyone wanting that,
    they're the people who know how to use this technology, right?

    Please guys, you're potentially onto a winner here, with lots of
    people ready to tell friends and family to adopt something new, but
    you're needlessly making it hard, by not putting some simple thought
    into basic usability.

    Best Wishes,
    Phil Chapman

--
Emil Ivov, Ph.D. 67000 Strasbourg,
Project Lead France
Jitsi
emcho@jitsi.org PHONE: +33.1.77.62.43.30
http://jitsi.org FAX: +33.1.77.62.47.31