[jitsi-dev] OS X, Java requirements


#1

Hi all,

I updated to OS X 10.9 mavericks. It seems this update removed Java 1.6. That’s fine with me. I have Jave 1.7 from oracle installed.

But now every time I open jitsi, I get the notice to install java 1.6. Is 1.6 still a requirement for jitsi to work? Isn’t it possible to use the existing java 1.7 on my machine?

Can someone elaborate on this? Think, updating jitsi, to use the latest java might be a smart idea?

Kind regards,
steve


#2

Hey Steve,

We already ship Jitsi with Java 1.7 on Windows so there is nothing to
update there.

There seems however that there is indeed a problem with hour Mavericks
handles the absence of Java. (Apple seem to have gradually worsened
the experience of Java's installation during the last versions).

We should look into this but the options are basically the following:

a) we find a way to make Mavericks download and install a Java version
for us (and to only ask once and not on every start as in your case)
b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

Emil

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I updated to OS X 10.9 mavericks. It seems this update removed Java 1.6. That’s fine with me. I have Jave 1.7 from oracle installed.

But now every time I open jitsi, I get the notice to install java 1.6. Is 1.6 still a requirement for jitsi to work? Isn’t it possible to use the existing java 1.7 on my machine?

Can someone elaborate on this? Think, updating jitsi, to use the latest java might be a smart idea?

Kind regards,
steve

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#3

We already ship Jitsi with Java 1.7 on Windows so there is nothing to
update there.

There seems however that there is indeed a problem with hour Mavericks
handles the absence of Java. (Apple seem to have gradually worsened
the experience of Java's installation during the last versions).

Well, Apple wants to move people towards the new Java 1.7. Per se that seems to be a good idea.

We should look into this but the options are basically the following:

a) we find a way to make Mavericks download and install a Java version
for us (and to only ask once and not on every start as in your case)

Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said, I’d like to use Java 1.7.

b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?


#4

The source itself work with 1.7 yes. The current packaging may
indicate a preference for 1.6 (if that's the case it is simply a
leftover and not an actual requirement) so it may not work with 1.7

Option b), which we will work on next week, would come with J1.7
pre-packaged in the Jitsi dmg, so there won't be any need for anyone
to download any version of Java.

Hope this answers your question,
Emil

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:

Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said, I’d like to use Java 1.7.

b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?


#5

Hi Emil,

any results already? Latest nightly still asks to install Java 1.6 on OS X.

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Am 25.10.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>:

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:

Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said, I’d like to use Java 1.7.

b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?

The source itself work with 1.7 yes. The current packaging may
indicate a preference for 1.6 (if that's the case it is simply a
leftover and not an actual requirement) so it may not work with 1.7

Option b), which we will work on next week, would come with J1.7
pre-packaged in the Jitsi dmg, so there won't be any need for anyone
to download any version of Java.

Hope this answers your question,
Emil

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#6

there just was a nightly update and now jitsi no longer launches on 10.9. (just FYI)

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Am 25.10.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>:

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:

Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said, I’d like to use Java 1.7.

b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?

The source itself work with 1.7 yes. The current packaging may
indicate a preference for 1.6 (if that's the case it is simply a
leftover and not an actual requirement) so it may not work with 1.7

Option b), which we will work on next week, would come with J1.7
pre-packaged in the Jitsi dmg, so there won't be any need for anyone
to download any version of Java.

Hope this answers your question,
Emil

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#7

We have almost finished bundling Java with Jitsi and will make the update
soon. (Expect a significantly increased download size for the first update!)

--sent from my mobile

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On 1 Nov 2013 11:20, "Foss" <foss@openmailbox.org> wrote:

Hi Emil,

any results already? Latest nightly still asks to install Java 1.6 on OS X.

Am 25.10.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>:

> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:
>> Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said,
I’d like to use Java 1.7.
>>
>>> b) we ship with the JRE we want
>>>
>>> I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
>>> us to enter the app store.
>>
>> So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?
>
> The source itself work with 1.7 yes. The current packaging may
> indicate a preference for 1.6 (if that's the case it is simply a
> leftover and not an actual requirement) so it may not work with 1.7
>
> Option b), which we will work on next week, would come with J1.7
> pre-packaged in the Jitsi dmg, so there won't be any need for anyone
> to download any version of Java.
>
> Hope this answers your question,
> Emil
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#8

Thanks for the quick report.
We tried upgrading to embed jre in dmg but there is a problem with
code signing the new launcher on the build machine. So we reverted it,
only a agent lib renaming was left which is your problem and is now
fixed in latest nightly.

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience
damencho

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Foss <foss@openmailbox.org> wrote:

there just was a nightly update and now jitsi no longer launches on 10.9. (just FYI)

Am 25.10.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>:

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve <stevebell@gulli.com> wrote:

Well if I download Java 1.6 jitsi will no longer ask. But as I said, I’d like to use Java 1.7.

b) we ship with the JRE we want

I think option b) might be more appropriate since it would also allow
us to enter the app store.

So I’m not sure yet, should Jitsi work with Java 1.7 on OS X?

The source itself work with 1.7 yes. The current packaging may
indicate a preference for 1.6 (if that's the case it is simply a
leftover and not an actual requirement) so it may not work with 1.7

Option b), which we will work on next week, would come with J1.7
pre-packaged in the Jitsi dmg, so there won't be any need for anyone
to download any version of Java.

Hope this answers your question,
Emil

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