[jitsi-dev] [jitsi] [Bounty] Explore possible synergies with project "Conversations" (#207)


#1

I suggested a co-operation between (at least) the two projects Jitsi and Conversations. I now decided to put out a bounty to motivate you to get together and discuss the potentials/limits of this. Please refer to the [issue in the Conversations project](https://github.com/siacs/Conversations/issues/1646) for details.

Short summary: I'll pay you 50€ (and additional 50€ to the devs of Conversations) if you get together (I assume a virtual meeting), discuss the issues and provide minutes of that meeting. No coding needed, you just need to spend some time with fellow developers to discuss potentials. I will also pay the bounty if you decide it's not worth it, so please consider this. I require the participant(s) to know the code-base and architecture well, though. So I either expect major contributions by that/those person(s) or them to be appointed by someone with such.

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#2

As I said an numerous occasions before: this isn't about wanting a feature or money. It's about not having the time to work on it. Not sure if @cobratbq's situation is any different.

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#3

So why not paying a developer to help you if money is not an issue? Diaspora has offered [$1000](https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/Diaspora_API_proposal#Funding_the_API_via_Bountysource) to someone who develop an API. Maybe you guys can do something similar and offer maybe $100 or $200 (I don't know your financial situation so these are just examples).

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#4

@moshpirit What @ibauersachs is saying, is that as an independent contributor (him and me both) we are not looking for money before we start on a contribution. It is not about the money. It is about the lack of time. When you start on a contribution there is typically some underlying reason, as you need to invest a significant amount of time to build a new feature. Remember that it took me more than a year to get IRC support up and running and to a modern enough feature-set.

It is also not about features not being important enough or not requested by the right person, or at the right time. It is simply that it takes a certain amount of time and for 1 or 2 developers Jitsi is quite a large project.

I appreciate that you want to offer a first incentive, but honestly, it would feel like stealing if I would now set up a quick meet up with the other devs and discuss options, knowing that I will very likely have too little time to do the actual implementation - or even just a significant part of it.

In any case, I am not against having a discussion with the Conversations devs, although I may not have the right knowledge of Jitsi for this. I have a good understanding of the architecture, but I have almost no knowledge of the XMPP specifics.

Don't get me wrong. In a few months time, things could change if I find an interesting (theoretical) goal for a side project where Jitsi could be my code base. Just like the side project I currently focus on where I use the otr4j code base as a use case. However, right now, having (yet) another side project simply does not fit.

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#5

Don't worry, take your time and do your best, I think that Jitsi and Conversations are great projects and big things take time so don't worry about it, just relax and have fun coding :slight_smile: what I meant is that, if this is too much work, you could ask for help and paying this help is an efficient way of getting it. That's my view, at least, as a normal user :slight_smile:

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#6

Thanks for the clarifications Danny.
Developers are a scarce resource, especially the ones qualified to work with crypto stuff. And to actually finance someone to work full time on that feature, we're talking about CHF 10k-20k. If you're able to get such an amount together, then you'd be able to find someone implementing it. So I'm sorry, but 50€, 200€, or a 1000$ just ain't gonna cut it (unless you find some really skilled nerd kid that has no real job yet).

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