[jitsi-dev] googletalk (voice) can't hear anything


#1

There actually were 2 answers by two different people, and there is
another answer to this mail by another guy, could it be that you do
not get the mails/move them into the spam folder?
those mails are also visible in the public archives:
http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev/2013-June/thread.html#17363

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Yannik V�lker

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On 06/20/13 06:07, A wrote:

Why isn't anyone responding? I asked very nicely and provided as
much information as I know how to supply. I can supply more if you
require.

Please, I would be grateful for your assistance.


#2

So thats strange as I didn't get those responses in my spam folder but
do see them in the archives. My apologies for the repeated emails. :slight_smile:

So I actually just found the following:

https://jitsi.org/Documentation/SetUpJitsiAccount

I can instead create an account with jitsi and use that to place calls
and chat. How wonderful is that. No more need to use technology from
goog, msft, etc. yay!!

I will give this a try this week. Thank you for your help.

AT

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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Yannik Völker <yannikv@yahoo.de> wrote:

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On 06/20/13 06:07, A wrote:

Why isn't anyone responding? I asked very nicely and provided as
much information as I know how to supply. I can supply more if you
require.

Please, I would be grateful for your assistance.

There actually were 2 answers by two different people, and there is
another answer to this mail by another guy, could it be that you do
not get the mails/move them into the spam folder?
those mails are also visible in the public archives:
http://lists.jitsi.org/pipermail/dev/2013-June/thread.html#17363

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Yannik Völker
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#3

I would recommend using another free XMPP-Server for your account
(incomplete list: https://list.jabber.at/) as jit.si is meant to be
used as development server mainly (and they are reeeealy slow at
fixing problems as they are mainly developing jitsi)

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Yannik V�lker

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Am 20.06.2013 18:58, schrieb A:

So thats strange as I didn't get those responses in my spam folder
but do see them in the archives. My apologies for the repeated
emails. :slight_smile:

So I actually just found the following:

https://jitsi.org/Documentation/SetUpJitsiAccount

I can instead create an account with jitsi and use that to place
calls and chat. How wonderful is that. No more need to use
technology from goog, msft, etc. yay!!

I will give this a try this week. Thank you for your help.

AT


#4

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So thats strange as I didn't get those responses in my spam folder
but do see them in the archives. My apologies for the repeated
emails. :slight_smile:

So I actually just found the following:

https://jitsi.org/Documentation/SetUpJitsiAccount

I can instead create an account with jitsi and use that to place
calls and chat. How wonderful is that. No more need to use
technology from goog, msft, etc. yay!!

I will give this a try this week. Thank you for your help.

AT

I would recommend using another free XMPP-Server

Maybe you missed it in A's report but it said that things actually work! :slight_smile:

for your account
(incomplete list: https://list.jabber.at/)

Yes, feel free to use any of those, or any other server, including your own. Note however that in order to have any kind of reliability your XMPP server needs to provide a Jingle Nodes relay. Currently jit.si is the only one that I am aware of with such a relay.

as jit.si is meant to be
used as development server mainly (and they are reeeealy slow at
fixing problems as they are mainly developing jitsi)

I understand that we may all be frustrated at times but I don't think the above is fair. To give an example: you reported a DNS problem yesterday at 00:50 CEST. That problem was fixed and the fix reported on the list at 00:56 CEST.

We've also recently successfully addressed other problems related to a max connection cap. We currently have a number of connections above that cap and no more problems.

So, while it is true that we can't always guarantee to look into any problem, I think one needs to give us credit for doing not too bad of a job in view of the circumstances.

Also note that the federation problems that you've been reported only appear with some servers (I am happily chatting with a number of X-domain users all day long) so you might want to consider that there might be shared responsibility here and also ping the providers of your other service. I sincerely hope that they would provide are response time that's shorter than 6 minutes so that you wouldn't again be dealing with people that are "reeeealy slow".

Cheers,
Emil

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On 20.06.13, 22:22, Yannik Völker wrote:

Am 20.06.2013 18:58, schrieb A:

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#5

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So thats strange as I didn't get those responses in my spam
folder but do see them in the archives. My apologies for the
repeated emails. :slight_smile:

So I actually just found the following:

https://jitsi.org/Documentation/SetUpJitsiAccount

I can instead create an account with jitsi and use that to
place calls and chat. How wonderful is that. No more need to
use technology from goog, msft, etc. yay!!

I will give this a try this week. Thank you for your help.

AT

I would recommend using another free XMPP-Server

Maybe you missed it in A's report but it said that things actually
work! :slight_smile:

I understood that he will try adding an account this week

for your account (incomplete list: https://list.jabber.at/)

Yes, feel free to use any of those, or any other server, including
your own. Note however that in order to have any kind of
reliability your XMPP server needs to provide a Jingle Nodes
relay. Currently jit.si is the only one that I am aware of with
such a relay.

i have no complete overview either but for example jabber-server.de
has one, too

as jit.si is meant to be used as development server mainly (and
they are reeeealy slow at fixing problems as they are mainly
developing jitsi)

I understand that we may all be frustrated at times but I don't
think the above is fair. To give an example: you reported a DNS
problem yesterday at 00:50 CEST. That problem was fixed and the
fix reported on the list at 00:56 CEST.

That was in fact quick

We've also recently successfully addressed other problems related
to a max connection cap. We currently have a number of connections
above that cap and no more problems.

So, while it is true that we can't always guarantee to look into
any problem, I think one needs to give us credit for doing not too
bad of a job in view of the circumstances.

Also note that the federation problems that you've been reported
only appear with some servers (I am happily chatting with a number
of X-domain users all day long) so you might want to consider that
there might be shared responsibility here and also ping the
providers of your other service. I sincerely hope that they would
provide are response time that's shorter than 6 minutes so that
you wouldn't again be dealing with people that are "reeeealy
slow".

If it was not clear: i was referencing the time between my first
report of federation problems (2013-6-12) and today (2013-6-21) which
is 9 days and not considered quick (and its still not resolved)
I am talking to other provider.
This was not meant to be offensive or anything, it was just my
experience and the fact that jitsi is meant to be a development/test
server (as stated on the website)
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Yannik V�lker

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Am 20.06.2013 22:35, schrieb Emil Ivov:

On 20.06.13, 22:22, Yannik V�lker wrote:

Am 20.06.2013 18:58, schrieb A:


#6

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So thats strange as I didn't get those responses in my spam
folder but do see them in the archives. My apologies for the
repeated emails. :slight_smile:

So I actually just found the following:

https://jitsi.org/Documentation/SetUpJitsiAccount

I can instead create an account with jitsi and use that to
place calls and chat. How wonderful is that. No more need to
use technology from goog, msft, etc. yay!!

I will give this a try this week. Thank you for your help.

AT

I would recommend using another free XMPP-Server

Maybe you missed it in A's report but it said that things actually
work! :slight_smile:

I understood that he will try adding an account this week

for your account (incomplete list: https://list.jabber.at/)

Yes, feel free to use any of those, or any other server, including
your own. Note however that in order to have any kind of
reliability your XMPP server needs to provide a Jingle Nodes
relay. Currently jit.si is the only one that I am aware of with
such a relay.

i have no complete overview either but for example jabber-server.de
has one, too

Good to know.

as jit.si is meant to be used as development server mainly (and
they are reeeealy slow at fixing problems as they are mainly
developing jitsi)

I understand that we may all be frustrated at times but I don't
think the above is fair. To give an example: you reported a DNS
problem yesterday at 00:50 CEST. That problem was fixed and the
fix reported on the list at 00:56 CEST.

That was in fact quick

We've also recently successfully addressed other problems related
to a max connection cap. We currently have a number of connections
above that cap and no more problems.

So, while it is true that we can't always guarantee to look into
any problem, I think one needs to give us credit for doing not too
bad of a job in view of the circumstances.

Also note that the federation problems that you've been reported
only appear with some servers (I am happily chatting with a number
of X-domain users all day long) so you might want to consider that
there might be shared responsibility here and also ping the
providers of your other service. I sincerely hope that they would
provide are response time that's shorter than 6 minutes so that
you wouldn't again be dealing with people that are "reeeealy
slow".

If it was not clear: i was referencing the time between my first
report of federation problems (2013-6-12) and today (2013-6-21) which
is 9 days and not considered quick (and its still not resolved)

Well, that's because we really aren't sure what needs to be resolved. All our SRVs are in place and we successfully federate with a number of servers. If you have a server that's not working, then please let us know what its problem is and we'll see what we can do.

I am talking to other provider.

Great, let us know if they see a specific problem or misbehaviour on the side of jit.si. Until then, we can't do anything, so there's no point in holding your breath and counting days.

This was not meant to be offensive or anything, it was just my
experience and the fact that jitsi is meant to be a development/test
server (as stated on the website)

For the time being this is true. It may change in the future.

Either way, saying: don't use it because they are "reeeealy slow" is a mischaracterisation.

Emil

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On 21.06.13, 00:43, Yannik Völker wrote:

Am 20.06.2013 22:35, schrieb Emil Ivov:

On 20.06.13, 22:22, Yannik Völker wrote:

Am 20.06.2013 18:58, schrieb A:

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