@beninseattle Considering the blessing that Jitsi has been to me (and to others), I think it would be remiss of me not to speak up when there’s a mischaracterization of the project - or the efforts of those directly behind the project. Am I passionate about Jitsi and the developers? Heck, yeah! And I believe everyone who’s been a beneficiary of their generosity should be too. However, this isn’t about me, but since you want to make it personal, I’ll indulge you…
Starting the post is not the problem, making a firm assertion that’s baseless and unsupported by facts is. You raised an issue, the responsible parties immediately went to work. They even advised that this was something triggered by Firefox. But they went to work anyway to try and work around the issue while the Mozilla team works on providing a definitive fix. But none of that seemed to be good enough for you. Instead, you came with your highly offensive and inaccurate assessment - “…it has been so unstable lately”. Even though you had been provided the facts, you had the attention of the frontline devs, you had people actively working on the issue AND providing updates on their efforts, you still felt a need to dismiss all that and end up with a discouraging assessment of their work.
You didn’t have the requisite knowledge to come to the conclusion that you were pushing. But it didn’t matter, you dug your heels in anyway, even when this much was pointed out. And not until you were hammered with facts after facts and reason after reason did you submit that you didn’t really know what you were talking about. And rather than bow out gracefully, you decided to turn this into a personal matter. But no worries, I have time.
The problem with allowing inaccurate statements like the ones you’ve been pandering to fester is that they are damaging - not just to the psyche of the developers, but to the reputation of the project. You make these baseless unfounded claims about ‘issues’ that have persisted and have purportedly been ignored by the team. All the while, you were the one using obsolete software to run cutting-edge technology. Per your assessment, the team should always make sure Jitsi works with any and every iteration of browsers, no matter how outdated they are. In my colloquialism, where they do that at?
Making baseless claims is NOT being “part of the solution”. Ignoring the facts in favor of your impassioned mischaracterization is NOT “part of the solution”. And making it personal, is definitely NOT part of the solution.
Naw, I’m good. I don’t need any private messages with you. My interest is what it is here - there’s nothing hidden about it. If there’s need for introspection, it honestly should be for you. The fact that you STILL can’t see how wrong you are tells everything there needs to be told. I’m not Jitsi, I’m not 8x8, I’m not employed by any of those entities. I’m a regular user just like almost everyone else here. But silence in the face of truth is what allows atrocities to thrive in the world. The team may not even necessarily agree with me, but that doesn’t change my belief. I’m just one voice in this multitude of voices; I don’t determine the direction of the project.